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so this isn't anything that just is

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limited to the united states it's a

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this is michael mazzola and you are

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hi everyone and welcome back to that ufo

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podcast my name is andy and this is

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episode 11 my interview with buddy from

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alien protocols really really

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interesting chat with buddy we go over

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an hour discussing remote viewing

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growing up with psy gifts pre-cognitive

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dreams an update on the magi ufo he

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remote viewed there's some really

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interesting comments about what went on

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um some skin walker ranch involvement

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and then some listener questions that

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you must stick around for so folks just

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a little summary before we get into the

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interview of this week my next two

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guests coming up will be calvin parker

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that was pushed back very slightly and

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calvin is one of the most famous ufo

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abductees on the planet he has a really

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fascinating story that is just always

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incredible every time you hear it so

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bryant arnold you may know him better as

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skinwalker ranch depending on where you

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show i'll be speaking to him sunday

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night that will be released within the

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hidden veil that can communicate with

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okay folks coming back from that message

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we have our guest on this week's show he

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is an experiencer consciousness not

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that's a hard thing to say in a scottish

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accent again um

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psi practitioner is it psy or psi

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among many other things we've got buddy

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buddy how are you this evening

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good thanks for having me i appreciate

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your time it's an absolute pleasure this

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was really interested in and it's been

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great to get in touch with yourself and

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that's um it's really good to kind of

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future and influence things around me

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it becomes science uh 200 years ago a

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strange phenomena that was happening at

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the time and united them into the

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occurrences that were happening and i

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this ability and the associated

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abilities around it from the power of

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amount of information and connects all

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abilities over time and found myself uh

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just drawn into situations and working

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for a wide variety of really interesting

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companies organizations governmental

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pre-cognitive dreams

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ones i remember is we had a swinging

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chain breaking and it falling

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and she thought that was very

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interesting and then within a day or two

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within like a dream state or is that

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meditation and leave the body

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it's meditation through and leave the

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body and it's nothing associated with

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sleep um it's during you know the

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daytime you're completely cognizant of

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what's going on and um

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quote-unquote signal is very strong and

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it's very vivid and the experience is

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filled with synesthesia and smells and

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sounds and you see images that flash in

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front of your eyes you're almost

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compelled to close your eyes so you can

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see these images better and other times

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it comes very sublime

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information from nothingness once you

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clear your mind and still your mind

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um and find this point of complete

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blankness complete nothingness the first

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things that come to your mind are you

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know a gestalt and you write these down

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and those are the psychic impressions

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great what age would you say really

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started ramping up for you if you're

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seeing this happen from being a young

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was it your teenage years and people

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talk about puberty and all those kind of

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hormones kicking about in your body is

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when these things can really come to

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come to the forefront is that when it

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happened for you what sort of age

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happened more in my late teens and then

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after my mother's passing i got

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tremendous amount more than as well

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in some kind of superhero movie or

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horror film where you're in some uh

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canteen and you make everything fly off

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the benches but was there anything you

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remember that maybe happened that was

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particularly traumatizing or it was

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maybe a more positive experience growing

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up

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um i don't remember anything

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traumatizing i've always had positive

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experiences around all of this stuff i

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prefer not to let any negativity into my

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mind at all in any way so i've never had

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any negative experiences in any of the

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esoteric stuff or you know the ufology

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type stuff but i remember

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trying to move a painting

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in my room in my bedroom as a kid and

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trying to move it with my mind and

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trying to move it and

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then i fell asleep

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and when i woke up in the morning it was

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tilted and turned

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and i was like that's really unusual did

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i sleepwalk or something or or how did

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that happen and then over time i found

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that i had the ability to influence

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things a little bit there were times

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where i was able to push a marble

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and i didn't i

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it was

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not consistent

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but when it happened it was just like

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electric you know um

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so it's never you know these abilities

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are like any of your other senses

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they're not perfect they're not flawless

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you know it's not like a superhero but

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um the more you work on them the more

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consistent they become

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yeah i think some of the phrasing you've

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used and later on we've got one of my

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listener questions is latent abilities

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so this is something you very much

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believe

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we've all got inside of us already and

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it's just bringing it out and how you

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come about doing that yeah

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exactly exactly was there anyone you

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look to growing up because again this is

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something that is is quite different

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from most people's childhoods that they

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realize have got these gifts i mean i

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walked along the street and pretended i

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could move a crisp packet that was only

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blowing in the wind and we've all could

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have done those things as a kid and

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try to make a light turn off and that

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was one of your youtube videos i saw

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recently we've all tried it but for for

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the 99

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99.9 even it never works but for you

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this is something that you honed so was

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there anyone you looked to growing up

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and those fields are in those areas i'm

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i'm thinking names like ingo swann

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exactly you nailed it you're psychic

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yourself that's ingo swan is the top of

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my list um

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but uh there's a lot of people that go

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all the way back to the yoga sutras you

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know 2000 years ago like narghajuna

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who said if you still your mind like the

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surface of a lake you can reflect the

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universe

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and in the yoga sutras they spoke a lot

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about these abilities that on the path

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of virtue

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these abilities

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present themselves and these

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uh

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monks would be able to communicate with

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another monk who's you know

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thousands of miles away

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or uh you know heal an injured child

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so

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you know in terms of influences there's

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never been a lot and there's also you

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know there's a great impediment to

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exploring this topic there's a lot of

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you know bs with this topic

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i've never wanted to be

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you know famous i don't want to be on tv

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i don't want to do tv shows or movies

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based on this stuff i'd rather be like

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an ingo swan someone who

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searched out researchers to try and get

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to the heart of what's going on here

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and to try and

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leave information behind that others

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would find useful

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and to help with the research to nail

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down this field or whatever the exact

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physics is so i've really tried

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especially in the past you know years to

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make my abilities uh strong enough so

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that

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they're dependable when uh confronted

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with a challenge in front of a

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researcher or while under pressure so um

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that's always been a real important

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thing to me

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and is that something you found that you

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you can at will rise to the occasion

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when you have to when you're when you're

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faced with a researcher or i was going

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to see a skeptic but i suppose you have

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nothing to prove to a skeptic but

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someone like a researcher who wants to

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look at the data the science really see

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what this is and you know what's what's

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the practicalities of this this kind of

403
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ability and how can we how can we make

404
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this more how can we bring it to more

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people what sort of occasions have you

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had today have you got any you would

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discuss tons of them tons of them um

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i've worked with scientists that were

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skeptical or some that partially

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believed and then when you see it

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yourself you know you can watch a

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thousand videos and you could you can

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always assume some sort of kind of

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trickery or you know video

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you know

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effects of some kind but in person when

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you see something over and over again

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it's hard to dispute um recently i was

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at a lab in uh

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huntsville alabama which is the rocketry

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and

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capital of the united states basically

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and with a very big uh governmental

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organization behind it

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and others were there and

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they asked me to go through several

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different machines to see if i could

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affect different machines and one of the

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videos is on

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my youtube channel where i affect a

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shielded compass

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and um

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[Music]

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the first machine i was working on but

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we didn't get a video of this one

436
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was a

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an electrostatic detector

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and for the first like 10 minutes i

439
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couldn't get you know it sometimes it

440
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takes time and you have to have patience

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and i couldn't get it to go

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and um

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someone said something to me uh like one

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of the scientists was like taunting me

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you know like you want to give up yet

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and i was like no way i'm just starting

447
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to get the feel of the character of this

448
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funny machine

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and within a couple of minutes the it

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started moving and kept moving and kept

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moving and kept moving beyond the point

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of

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you know any

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interference

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um

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so uh

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you know i've been challenged a lot and

458
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tested a lot from bending metal

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screwdrivers in front of people and

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scientists and reporters and stuff

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without touching them

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you can hold the handle but wave your

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hand over the part that you want in the

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way you want it to bend and

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it would bend

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and uh

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you know this stuff is so extraordinary

468
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it's so outside of most people's daily

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experiences that it's really logical and

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easy to negate its possibility

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but uh the shocking

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and astonishing truth is that this stuff

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is real

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you me you mentioned growing up so i

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nailed and go swan

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from your point of view i also mentioned

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uraguella now ango swan you mentioned

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was someone who sought out the

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researchers and really wanted to look at

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the scientific side of this

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would you

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say that an uraguella who's maybe more

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famous here in the uk um for being a bit

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of a celebrity he's done a lot of tv

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shows over the years do you have

486
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anything against someone like that who i

487
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kind of do yeah i i kind of do um and

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recently he said he was going to uh

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remote influence theresa may

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um about uh brexit

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and um you know i wrote him and said you

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know it's not going to happen it's not

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going to work you know you can't do it

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it won't work you know and if anything

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i'll try and stop you you know and

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she ended up voting for it like five

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times or something so he had failed

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consistently in that one but he's always

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been a performer

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and i believe he's been mixing

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magic tricks with this stuff

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and um you don't need to mix the magic

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tricks you know you have to be willing

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to fail

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because sometimes you will fail

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but if you watch enough you will see

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things that are so miraculous so

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statistically beyond the realm of

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probability that you are left kind of

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gobsmacked

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yeah there's another incident famously a

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couple of years ago where uri geller uh

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claimed to have moved uh football from a

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penalty spot or a soccer game for those

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listening in the us with it with his

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mind um to help the english national

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football team out so yeah i definitely

518
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think there's an element of showmanship

519
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and character there that's maybe more

520
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fitting of an ancient aliens than than

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any other type of show but yeah no so if

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you've got those two different paths and

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then go swan and i know together kind of

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obviously wait and there's and there's

525
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real straight ups they're straight up

526
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scam artists too you know the neon light

527
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psychics um even though they may have

528
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real insights and they may have their

529
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natural ability like everyone have and

530
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produce real information oftentimes

531
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they're associated with scams and money

532
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scams and all that so i make a big

533
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effort not to charge for any of the

534
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stuff that i do people are welcome to

535
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give donations

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if they find our work helpful but um

537
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you know we don't charge and i don't

538
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charge and i teach for free and um

539
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unless it's like a private class or

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something so um

541
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you know it's really important to me to

542
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try to maintain as much integrity in

543
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this mysterious field as possible

544
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yeah and i think the integrity

545
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definitely helps the credibility side of

546
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things like like you say

547
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so again what sort of practice and

548
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training goes into nourishing those

549
00:20:18,710 --> 00:20:17,039
abilities so we know you've had puberty

550
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in late teens and

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you're starting to do more and more

552
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looking things like static pushing a

553
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marble those sorts of things

554
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how do they harness how do you harness

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those and get the most out of those

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abilities

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well some you just have to try for the

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first time you just have to push it like

559
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the first time i tried to do a healing

560
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um it was a sick dog that we had and

561
00:20:43,669 --> 00:20:41,679
um i just tried and prayed and you know

562
00:20:44,710 --> 00:20:43,679
those and i'm i consider myself a

563
00:20:46,630 --> 00:20:44,720
christian

564
00:20:48,390 --> 00:20:46,640
and so i pray and i consider all these

565
00:20:50,870 --> 00:20:48,400
gifts from god i don't you know there's

566
00:20:53,029 --> 00:20:50,880
a lot of uh evangelicals who find this

567
00:20:55,029 --> 00:20:53,039
sort of thing evil or demonic or

568
00:20:56,789 --> 00:20:55,039
whatever but i find that really ironic

569
00:20:58,710 --> 00:20:56,799
as someone who believes all of these are

570
00:21:00,950 --> 00:20:58,720
just you know the gifts that god has

571
00:21:03,430 --> 00:21:00,960
given us so um

572
00:21:05,430 --> 00:21:03,440
you know you try something and then you

573
00:21:08,070 --> 00:21:05,440
keep trying it and you try to hone it

574
00:21:10,630 --> 00:21:08,080
and improve it and over time if you're

575
00:21:12,870 --> 00:21:10,640
tenacious enough you'll see the results

576
00:21:14,710 --> 00:21:12,880
and sometimes it's a lot faster than you

577
00:21:17,510 --> 00:21:14,720
think you know the first time i tried to

578
00:21:19,510 --> 00:21:17,520
bend metal um i was almost like giggling

579
00:21:21,110 --> 00:21:19,520
at myself like how silly is this you

580
00:21:24,070 --> 00:21:21,120
know what am i trying to do

581
00:21:25,990 --> 00:21:24,080
and um

582
00:21:27,909 --> 00:21:26,000
when it started to move and then you get

583
00:21:30,390 --> 00:21:27,919
this whole sensation over your body it's

584
00:21:32,549 --> 00:21:30,400
almost like goofs bumps and you you get

585
00:21:34,230 --> 00:21:32,559
warm and it's almost because you know

586
00:21:37,990 --> 00:21:34,240
it's just so exciting and thrilling and

587
00:21:39,830 --> 00:21:38,000
unbelievable and amazing and um

588
00:21:41,190 --> 00:21:39,840
it just

589
00:21:43,830 --> 00:21:41,200
you know

590
00:21:45,669 --> 00:21:43,840
it's self-rewarding patience and

591
00:21:47,510 --> 00:21:45,679
tenacity are self-rewarding with the

592
00:21:48,390 --> 00:21:47,520
results that come from it

593
00:21:49,990 --> 00:21:48,400
um

594
00:21:52,390 --> 00:21:50,000
i've worked with a couple of big

595
00:21:54,789 --> 00:21:52,400
companies and big groups and well-known

596
00:21:57,270 --> 00:21:54,799
um associations and

597
00:21:59,029 --> 00:21:57,280
sometimes at the beginning typically at

598
00:22:02,149 --> 00:21:59,039
the beginning

599
00:22:04,070 --> 00:22:02,159
it's a feeling out process so it's not

600
00:22:05,350 --> 00:22:04,080
like boom out of the gates i'm you know

601
00:22:06,549 --> 00:22:05,360
kicking butt

602
00:22:08,549 --> 00:22:06,559
um

603
00:22:09,909 --> 00:22:08,559
sometimes it is but most of the time

604
00:22:12,470 --> 00:22:09,919
it's more sensitive trying to get a

605
00:22:14,470 --> 00:22:12,480
sense of the signal the location like a

606
00:22:16,390 --> 00:22:14,480
tuning fork trying to find the frequency

607
00:22:17,350 --> 00:22:16,400
of another tuning fork

608
00:22:18,549 --> 00:22:17,360
um

609
00:22:20,390 --> 00:22:18,559
where if you don't have the right note

610
00:22:22,710 --> 00:22:20,400
it's not gonna quite sink but the second

611
00:22:24,630 --> 00:22:22,720
you get the right frequency they're both

612
00:22:26,230 --> 00:22:24,640
humming and vibrating you know across a

613
00:22:27,990 --> 00:22:26,240
distance

614
00:22:29,510 --> 00:22:28,000
okay so there's a lot there and

615
00:22:30,789 --> 00:22:29,520
everything being connected and i know

616
00:22:32,630 --> 00:22:30,799
that's something that you've you've

617
00:22:34,789 --> 00:22:32,640
talked about a lot and a lot of other

618
00:22:36,549 --> 00:22:34,799
people have and i think particularly the

619
00:22:38,149 --> 00:22:36,559
last couple of years i've seen if we

620
00:22:40,390 --> 00:22:38,159
want to talk a little bit about the ufo

621
00:22:42,149 --> 00:22:40,400
subject more and more this idea that

622
00:22:44,310 --> 00:22:42,159
everything's connected we're not looking

623
00:22:46,630 --> 00:22:44,320
at aliens from another planet hopping in

624
00:22:48,710 --> 00:22:46,640
a flying saucer and coming to say hello

625
00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:48,720
there's more to it with us phenomena

626
00:22:52,549 --> 00:22:50,400
rather than just extraterrestrials

627
00:22:54,070 --> 00:22:52,559
necessarily as well which for me is

628
00:22:56,390 --> 00:22:54,080
becoming more and more more and more of

629
00:22:58,230 --> 00:22:56,400
the way i'm thinking about it so

630
00:23:00,789 --> 00:22:58,240
i wanted to and that's really the truth

631
00:23:02,470 --> 00:23:00,799
yeah yeah and

632
00:23:04,230 --> 00:23:02,480
i'm going to get to some of that as well

633
00:23:06,710 --> 00:23:04,240
there's some of this that for me it

634
00:23:08,630 --> 00:23:06,720
makes a lot more sense than we've got

635
00:23:10,070 --> 00:23:08,640
one group of aliens coming to visitors

636
00:23:11,830 --> 00:23:10,080
who are technologically advanced and

637
00:23:12,870 --> 00:23:11,840
that's as you start to see

638
00:23:15,110 --> 00:23:12,880
some of the

639
00:23:16,390 --> 00:23:15,120
the testimony from pilots what they're

640
00:23:18,549 --> 00:23:16,400
seeing some of the videos that are

641
00:23:20,710 --> 00:23:18,559
online are as camera phones get better

642
00:23:23,110 --> 00:23:20,720
and you're getting 4k and 8k videos of

643
00:23:24,549 --> 00:23:23,120
some of these shape-shifting entities in

644
00:23:26,710 --> 00:23:24,559
the sky it's clear that that's not a

645
00:23:28,390 --> 00:23:26,720
physical saucer or that's not a ship but

646
00:23:29,830 --> 00:23:28,400
then some of these things are so it's

647
00:23:31,350 --> 00:23:29,840
definitely evolving the way i'm thinking

648
00:23:33,590 --> 00:23:31,360
about it as well

649
00:23:36,070 --> 00:23:33,600
you know the obvious connection between

650
00:23:37,990 --> 00:23:36,080
the ufos and this these abilities and

651
00:23:39,990 --> 00:23:38,000
phenomena like the skinwalker ranch and

652
00:23:41,430 --> 00:23:40,000
haunted houses and things like that is

653
00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:41,440
consciousness

654
00:23:45,669 --> 00:23:43,440
and like i was saying before about there

655
00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:45,679
being some sort of a field if there is a

656
00:23:49,430 --> 00:23:47,760
field some sort of substructure

657
00:23:52,230 --> 00:23:49,440
underneath this reality kind of like the

658
00:23:53,430 --> 00:23:52,240
electromagnetic field was

659
00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:53,440
that

660
00:23:57,669 --> 00:23:54,480
has

661
00:23:59,510 --> 00:23:57,679
a connection to every place every time

662
00:24:02,789 --> 00:23:59,520
then you would think an advanced

663
00:24:04,390 --> 00:24:02,799
civilization would understand that field

664
00:24:05,669 --> 00:24:04,400
and that technology

665
00:24:07,430 --> 00:24:05,679
very well

666
00:24:09,510 --> 00:24:07,440
and um

667
00:24:11,909 --> 00:24:09,520
utilize it as well you would it would

668
00:24:14,310 --> 00:24:11,919
almost mandate that advanced technology

669
00:24:16,470 --> 00:24:14,320
would i'm going to give a really a crass

670
00:24:17,909 --> 00:24:16,480
example here so forgive me but do you

671
00:24:19,110 --> 00:24:17,919
mean when you talk about a field

672
00:24:21,110 --> 00:24:19,120
something like

673
00:24:22,470 --> 00:24:21,120
star wars where you've got the force do

674
00:24:23,909 --> 00:24:22,480
you mean something like that that's

675
00:24:24,789 --> 00:24:23,919
behind everything or is it something

676
00:24:25,909 --> 00:24:24,799
else

677
00:24:28,230 --> 00:24:25,919
it's like an electric the

678
00:24:29,830 --> 00:24:28,240
electromagnetic field um is something

679
00:24:30,789 --> 00:24:29,840
that's invisible humans have lived

680
00:24:32,950 --> 00:24:30,799
around it

681
00:24:34,870 --> 00:24:32,960
you know our entire existence but we

682
00:24:37,269 --> 00:24:34,880
couldn't define it we couldn't

683
00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:37,279
see it unless rare circumstances like

684
00:24:41,190 --> 00:24:39,360
lightning bolts or static electricity

685
00:24:43,110 --> 00:24:41,200
when you walk across a carpet or rub two

686
00:24:45,669 --> 00:24:43,120
fabrics together

687
00:24:47,830 --> 00:24:45,679
it's a law and a structure that makes up

688
00:24:49,590 --> 00:24:47,840
our reality that's not

689
00:24:50,950 --> 00:24:49,600
visually tangible

690
00:24:52,070 --> 00:24:50,960
but is

691
00:24:54,310 --> 00:24:52,080
uh

692
00:24:57,110 --> 00:24:54,320
observable or

693
00:24:58,390 --> 00:24:57,120
is it presents itself

694
00:25:00,630 --> 00:24:58,400
under certain

695
00:25:02,789 --> 00:25:00,640
very specific conditions

696
00:25:05,350 --> 00:25:02,799
so um

697
00:25:07,990 --> 00:25:05,360
there's a belief in physics

698
00:25:11,590 --> 00:25:08,000
a big debate about uh the role that

699
00:25:13,350 --> 00:25:11,600
consciousness plays in reality

700
00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:13,360
the famous two-slit

701
00:25:17,590 --> 00:25:15,360
and and many others

702
00:25:18,710 --> 00:25:17,600
where physicists are not

703
00:25:20,390 --> 00:25:18,720
sure

704
00:25:22,070 --> 00:25:20,400
why

705
00:25:24,789 --> 00:25:22,080
observation

706
00:25:25,990 --> 00:25:24,799
seems to literally affect space-time and

707
00:25:28,789 --> 00:25:26,000
matter

708
00:25:31,269 --> 00:25:28,799
but it's definitively scientifically

709
00:25:32,390 --> 00:25:31,279
true that the observation of subatomic

710
00:25:34,070 --> 00:25:32,400
particles

711
00:25:35,510 --> 00:25:34,080
effects

712
00:25:37,430 --> 00:25:35,520
their reality

713
00:25:39,430 --> 00:25:37,440
and not just that you're seeing them or

714
00:25:40,789 --> 00:25:39,440
that if you're using you know lights to

715
00:25:43,510 --> 00:25:40,799
bounce off of them to identify their

716
00:25:46,310 --> 00:25:43,520
location it's much deeper than that

717
00:25:49,590 --> 00:25:46,320
they've done all sorts of experiments

718
00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:49,600
and it it's proven that consciousness

719
00:25:54,630 --> 00:25:53,039
and reality are essentially interwoven

720
00:25:56,789 --> 00:25:54,640
like a tapestry

721
00:25:57,830 --> 00:25:56,799
so it's not space-time matter and energy

722
00:26:02,710 --> 00:25:57,840
first

723
00:26:05,190 --> 00:26:02,720
people in this field um

724
00:26:08,390 --> 00:26:05,200
hypothesize i believe it's a tapestry

725
00:26:11,269 --> 00:26:08,400
that they're both interwoven very deeply

726
00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:11,279
um you can't have uh a consciousness

727
00:26:15,269 --> 00:26:13,679
without energy space time and matter and

728
00:26:17,029 --> 00:26:15,279
energy space-time and matter are

729
00:26:19,190 --> 00:26:17,039
completely meaningless if there's no

730
00:26:20,470 --> 00:26:19,200
consciousness to observe it

731
00:26:22,470 --> 00:26:20,480
um

732
00:26:25,110 --> 00:26:22,480
so it's like the classic you know if a

733
00:26:27,430 --> 00:26:25,120
bear poops in the woods um

734
00:26:28,470 --> 00:26:27,440
you know or a tree falls in the woods

735
00:26:30,390 --> 00:26:28,480
yeah

736
00:26:34,390 --> 00:26:30,400
and no one's watching or no one sees the

737
00:26:36,549 --> 00:26:34,400
poop um did it happen and uh physics has

738
00:26:38,549 --> 00:26:36,559
told us that

739
00:26:40,710 --> 00:26:38,559
something called a superposition which

740
00:26:43,190 --> 00:26:40,720
is kind of unusual and superposition

741
00:26:44,710 --> 00:26:43,200
means it did happen and it didn't happen

742
00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:44,720
simultaneously

743
00:26:47,990 --> 00:26:46,480
and it's not determined until it's

744
00:26:49,830 --> 00:26:48,000
observed

745
00:26:55,750 --> 00:26:49,840
so it's a bit of a schrodinger's cat

746
00:26:58,870 --> 00:26:57,350
we don't know it might have but we can't

747
00:26:59,990 --> 00:26:58,880
see it so

748
00:27:00,789 --> 00:27:00,000
yes

749
00:27:04,149 --> 00:27:00,799
both

750
00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:04,159
this super position

751
00:27:09,029 --> 00:27:07,200
until an observation causes reality to

752
00:27:12,310 --> 00:27:09,039
make a decision

753
00:27:14,149 --> 00:27:12,320
so um we're just beginning to understand

754
00:27:15,990 --> 00:27:14,159
consciousness and its role in the

755
00:27:20,950 --> 00:27:16,000
physical world

756
00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:23,590
in the most basic definition it's an

757
00:27:30,310 --> 00:27:27,760
awareness of your surroundings

758
00:27:32,230 --> 00:27:30,320
and different creatures have different

759
00:27:35,110 --> 00:27:32,240
levels of consciousness

760
00:27:37,430 --> 00:27:35,120
um some might say because an amoeba can

761
00:27:39,830 --> 00:27:37,440
react to its environment

762
00:27:42,310 --> 00:27:39,840
um that maybe it has consciousness yeah

763
00:27:44,310 --> 00:27:42,320
i don't know about that but obviously

764
00:27:47,029 --> 00:27:44,320
animals have consciousness down to the

765
00:27:49,269 --> 00:27:47,039
smallest sizes um

766
00:27:51,190 --> 00:27:49,279
so um

767
00:27:52,870 --> 00:27:51,200
it's something that i don't completely

768
00:27:54,070 --> 00:27:52,880
understand myself

769
00:27:56,950 --> 00:27:54,080
i don't understand the complete

770
00:27:57,590 --> 00:27:56,960
parameters of it but i'm an explorer of

771
00:27:59,669 --> 00:27:57,600
it

772
00:28:01,350 --> 00:27:59,679
that's for certain

773
00:28:03,110 --> 00:28:01,360
i think what's for certain as well as

774
00:28:04,630 --> 00:28:03,120
we're all exploring it we might not be

775
00:28:07,350 --> 00:28:04,640
aware we're exploring it but we're all

776
00:28:09,190 --> 00:28:07,360
here so for some reason whether we chose

777
00:28:10,789 --> 00:28:09,200
it and we don't know it or not that

778
00:28:12,230 --> 00:28:10,799
we're experiencing the same thing

779
00:28:15,990 --> 00:28:12,240
potentially so

780
00:28:18,230 --> 00:28:16,000
um i want to touch on remote viewing so

781
00:28:20,149 --> 00:28:18,240
what would you say if someone asked you

782
00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:20,159
you know point blank what exactly is

783
00:28:25,990 --> 00:28:23,200
remote viewing how would you explain it

784
00:28:28,389 --> 00:28:26,000
i would explain it simply as it is a

785
00:28:30,710 --> 00:28:28,399
seven page process

786
00:28:31,669 --> 00:28:30,720
that's very deliberative

787
00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:31,679
and

788
00:28:34,149 --> 00:28:32,640
very

789
00:28:36,470 --> 00:28:34,159
um

790
00:28:38,950 --> 00:28:36,480
it has very specific instructions for

791
00:28:40,789 --> 00:28:38,960
every point throughout the process

792
00:28:44,549 --> 00:28:40,799
and it is a

793
00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:44,559
way to see distant places and things and

794
00:28:47,269 --> 00:28:45,600
times

795
00:28:49,990 --> 00:28:47,279
without being there

796
00:28:53,269 --> 00:28:50,000
and it was basically invented in its

797
00:28:55,909 --> 00:28:53,279
modern form by ingo swan

798
00:28:58,870 --> 00:28:55,919
working with sri stanford research

799
00:29:01,430 --> 00:28:58,880
institute and the cia

800
00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:01,440
and there was a very active program for

801
00:29:08,230 --> 00:29:04,960
20 years with the cia and remote viewers

802
00:29:11,110 --> 00:29:08,240
doing amazing staggering feats

803
00:29:13,350 --> 00:29:11,120
and ingo was one of the best of all of

804
00:29:17,110 --> 00:29:13,360
them there's a great documentary out now

805
00:29:19,190 --> 00:29:17,120
called third eye spies directed by lance

806
00:29:20,630 --> 00:29:19,200
maguire and it really takes you through

807
00:29:22,149 --> 00:29:20,640
the facts and the evidence and the

808
00:29:24,389 --> 00:29:22,159
amazing stories

809
00:29:26,950 --> 00:29:24,399
and in fact i've been speaking with um

810
00:29:29,430 --> 00:29:26,960
lance for a while and him and this head

811
00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:29,440
scientist from an organization had been

812
00:29:33,669 --> 00:29:31,760
testing me and they tested me three

813
00:29:34,950 --> 00:29:33,679
times surprised me out of nowhere and

814
00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:34,960
you know i

815
00:29:39,269 --> 00:29:37,360
i got a home run on all three of them

816
00:29:40,950 --> 00:29:39,279
really staggering results

817
00:29:42,870 --> 00:29:40,960
i mean if i was going to throw it out

818
00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:42,880
there with the scientists behind put off

819
00:29:47,029 --> 00:29:44,960
and would the organization be ttsa or

820
00:29:49,990 --> 00:29:47,039
would you not be able to say that

821
00:29:51,430 --> 00:29:50,000
um i'll say no to that but the scientist

822
00:29:53,830 --> 00:29:51,440
it's come out the information has come

823
00:29:55,350 --> 00:29:53,840
out and a skinwalker ranch i've worked

824
00:29:57,909 --> 00:29:55,360
with them for two years now the head

825
00:29:59,350 --> 00:29:57,919
scientist eric bard there i will hold

826
00:30:02,710 --> 00:29:59,360
off on that because i have a whole

827
00:30:04,870 --> 00:30:02,720
section on that for you so yeah uh great

828
00:30:06,389 --> 00:30:04,880
that's that's good to know though um so

829
00:30:08,070 --> 00:30:06,399
when you talked about the the project

830
00:30:09,669 --> 00:30:08,080
that had gone on with the cia and third

831
00:30:10,950 --> 00:30:09,679
eye spies just for those who haven't

832
00:30:13,269 --> 00:30:10,960
seen it like you say is a great

833
00:30:16,149 --> 00:30:13,279
documentary great piece of filmmaking

834
00:30:17,909 --> 00:30:16,159
and it's now available on amazon prime

835
00:30:19,430 --> 00:30:17,919
included with a prime subscription or

836
00:30:21,269 --> 00:30:19,440
you can rent it i rented it when it

837
00:30:24,149 --> 00:30:21,279
first came out and so it's well worth

838
00:30:26,070 --> 00:30:24,159
the two two pounds 49 or four dollars

839
00:30:28,149 --> 00:30:26,080
whatever that might be over in the us so

840
00:30:29,909 --> 00:30:28,159
definitely recommend watching that but

841
00:30:31,909 --> 00:30:29,919
the that would be project stargate and

842
00:30:34,710 --> 00:30:31,919
you're looking at russell targ and hal

843
00:30:36,789 --> 00:30:34,720
pitov who has now obviously with ttsa as

844
00:30:39,029 --> 00:30:36,799
well and they've done some incredible

845
00:30:41,029 --> 00:30:39,039
work with the likes of anglo-swan and

846
00:30:42,710 --> 00:30:41,039
others like you say who maybe aren't as

847
00:30:44,149 --> 00:30:42,720
famous um

848
00:30:47,269 --> 00:30:44,159
so and they trained people out of

849
00:30:50,310 --> 00:30:47,279
nowhere soldiers they took a soldier um

850
00:30:52,070 --> 00:30:50,320
named joe mcmonagle and trained him in

851
00:30:54,470 --> 00:30:52,080
it and he became one of the very best he

852
00:30:57,350 --> 00:30:54,480
was also a great graphic artist so he

853
00:31:00,470 --> 00:30:57,360
was able to render beautiful very

854
00:31:01,750 --> 00:31:00,480
specific drawings of stuff that's just

855
00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:01,760
staggering

856
00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:03,120
some of the information when you see the

857
00:31:06,630 --> 00:31:04,640
movie you're like

858
00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:06,640
it's it's you know every time it happens

859
00:31:11,269 --> 00:31:08,960
with me i'm staggered by it it's it's

860
00:31:12,549 --> 00:31:11,279
wondrous it's it's really really

861
00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:12,559
incredible

862
00:31:15,509 --> 00:31:14,159
and would you say remote viewing because

863
00:31:17,269 --> 00:31:15,519
this is something i've just seen more

864
00:31:19,269 --> 00:31:17,279
recently as well that it's not

865
00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:19,279
necessarily always seeing an exact

866
00:31:23,110 --> 00:31:21,120
picture in your head that if you're

867
00:31:25,110 --> 00:31:23,120
given a target and the target's going to

868
00:31:27,350 --> 00:31:25,120
be the eiffel tower you don't always

869
00:31:28,789 --> 00:31:27,360
necessarily see the eiffel tower and you

870
00:31:30,630 --> 00:31:28,799
can point that out but you would

871
00:31:33,029 --> 00:31:30,640
describe it and it'd be a feeling and

872
00:31:35,029 --> 00:31:33,039
it'd be descriptions and what's round

873
00:31:37,509 --> 00:31:35,039
about it and you would see a rather than

874
00:31:40,789 --> 00:31:37,519
you know it's a tower it's a point and

875
00:31:44,070 --> 00:31:40,799
it's got legs and is that how it works

876
00:31:45,990 --> 00:31:44,080
yes you know in fact for some reason

877
00:31:47,830 --> 00:31:46,000
and they say you're not supposed to try

878
00:31:49,509 --> 00:31:47,840
to name the target

879
00:31:51,990 --> 00:31:49,519
you're supposed to try and give all the

880
00:31:54,630 --> 00:31:52,000
feelings around it what it's composed of

881
00:31:56,230 --> 00:31:54,640
and the environment and and as you go

882
00:31:58,230 --> 00:31:56,240
through the process more and more these

883
00:32:01,029 --> 00:31:58,240
details come out and

884
00:32:02,870 --> 00:32:01,039
with the full crv controlled remote

885
00:32:05,430 --> 00:32:02,880
viewing method

886
00:32:07,750 --> 00:32:05,440
you can even use clay

887
00:32:09,110 --> 00:32:07,760
um and stuff as one of the very advanced

888
00:32:11,750 --> 00:32:09,120
techniques

889
00:32:13,909 --> 00:32:11,760
and when you're done the images you

890
00:32:15,750 --> 00:32:13,919
don't try and say what it is you draw it

891
00:32:17,750 --> 00:32:15,760
and sometimes it'll be apparent oh

892
00:32:21,029 --> 00:32:17,760
that's a volcano or oh that's the eiffel

893
00:32:23,750 --> 00:32:21,039
tower or you know that's uh

894
00:32:26,710 --> 00:32:23,760
you know notre dame or you know

895
00:32:28,710 --> 00:32:26,720
the colosseum and um you know

896
00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:28,720
technically you're not supposed to name

897
00:32:33,029 --> 00:32:31,200
them but as you get more advanced that

898
00:32:35,830 --> 00:32:33,039
ability does present itself where you

899
00:32:37,830 --> 00:32:35,840
can name targets and really nail targets

900
00:32:39,190 --> 00:32:37,840
um on my youtube channel you can see a

901
00:32:40,950 --> 00:32:39,200
bunch of different

902
00:32:43,750 --> 00:32:40,960
you know experiences that have happened

903
00:32:45,590 --> 00:32:43,760
recently where you know i i specifically

904
00:32:47,509 --> 00:32:45,600
nailed the target and it's it's always

905
00:32:48,549 --> 00:32:47,519
baffling and exciting and thrilling and

906
00:32:50,470 --> 00:32:48,559
wondrous

907
00:32:52,230 --> 00:32:50,480
yeah i watched some of yours and also

908
00:32:55,350 --> 00:32:52,240
someone who i think you're working with

909
00:32:57,269 --> 00:32:55,360
just now is omar um yes omar he's great

910
00:32:59,110 --> 00:32:57,279
i love the text messages and i think

911
00:33:01,350 --> 00:32:59,120
it's up on your twitter feed as well at

912
00:33:03,430 --> 00:33:01,360
alien protocols for people to see but

913
00:33:05,830 --> 00:33:03,440
it's the description sounds really

914
00:33:08,630 --> 00:33:05,840
confusing at first but then when you see

915
00:33:11,350 --> 00:33:08,640
the actual picture that he manages to

916
00:33:12,950 --> 00:33:11,360
describe it's perfect the whole concept

917
00:33:15,590 --> 00:33:12,960
of feeling like there's kneeling

918
00:33:17,350 --> 00:33:15,600
involved and yes it's one of the

919
00:33:20,070 --> 00:33:17,360
egyptian goddess

920
00:33:22,230 --> 00:33:20,080
yes it was hathor and in fact the text

921
00:33:24,710 --> 00:33:22,240
of course was a lot longer and he was

922
00:33:26,950 --> 00:33:24,720
i'd never met omar before i just you

923
00:33:28,950 --> 00:33:26,960
know through online and stuff like that

924
00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:28,960
and he was just trying to challenge me

925
00:33:33,269 --> 00:33:30,720
and test if i was the real deal or not

926
00:33:36,630 --> 00:33:33,279
so he only gave me a target number the

927
00:33:38,470 --> 00:33:36,640
only information i had was eight digits

928
00:33:39,350 --> 00:33:38,480
eight numbers

929
00:33:42,310 --> 00:33:39,360
and

930
00:33:44,549 --> 00:33:42,320
those represent the target

931
00:33:45,990 --> 00:33:44,559
they used to use longitude and latitude

932
00:33:48,070 --> 00:33:46,000
and things like that but then people

933
00:33:50,149 --> 00:33:48,080
could memorize longitude and latitude

934
00:33:52,310 --> 00:33:50,159
and get a sense of where things were so

935
00:33:54,389 --> 00:33:52,320
they advanced it to just strictly what's

936
00:33:56,950 --> 00:33:54,399
called a target number and so with

937
00:33:58,389 --> 00:33:56,960
controlled remote viewing you get just a

938
00:34:00,789 --> 00:33:58,399
target number

939
00:34:03,669 --> 00:34:00,799
and uh the information just flows and

940
00:34:05,909 --> 00:34:03,679
that one just it just flowed it was

941
00:34:08,869 --> 00:34:05,919
strange details like it's an ancient

942
00:34:11,990 --> 00:34:08,879
depiction of something older

943
00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:12,000
and there was a white cow in it and

944
00:34:14,310 --> 00:34:13,520
there was kneeling

945
00:34:16,310 --> 00:34:14,320
and

946
00:34:18,950 --> 00:34:16,320
vines the i'm feeling like a little thin

947
00:34:20,470 --> 00:34:18,960
vines of ivy and all those things were

948
00:34:22,470 --> 00:34:20,480
present in and you know you can watch

949
00:34:23,430 --> 00:34:22,480
the video and see and it was a dead

950
00:34:24,790 --> 00:34:23,440
ringer

951
00:34:26,790 --> 00:34:24,800
um

952
00:34:28,869 --> 00:34:26,800
and a few weeks before that the

953
00:34:31,270 --> 00:34:28,879
scientists from that uh location

954
00:34:33,829 --> 00:34:31,280
and lance munguia had called me out of

955
00:34:35,669 --> 00:34:33,839
nowhere with another target and i had

956
00:34:38,389 --> 00:34:35,679
nailed that one too it was electrical

957
00:34:39,909 --> 00:34:38,399
wiring and in my drawings the wirings

958
00:34:42,790 --> 00:34:39,919
were coming out of a

959
00:34:44,950 --> 00:34:42,800
like a roof uh like a lighting fixture

960
00:34:48,470 --> 00:34:44,960
so it was just a hole and the wirings

961
00:34:50,710 --> 00:34:48,480
come out and bent at a 45 degree angle

962
00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:50,720
and i had drawn them doing just that

963
00:34:55,510 --> 00:34:53,040
bending at the 45 degree angle and and

964
00:34:57,910 --> 00:34:55,520
said that it was electrical wires

965
00:35:00,390 --> 00:34:57,920
yeah i always find that fascinating and

966
00:35:01,990 --> 00:35:00,400
as was an angle swan and if i'm wrong

967
00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:02,000
i'll edit this out to make myself look

968
00:35:06,069 --> 00:35:04,320
better but was an english one that was

969
00:35:07,670 --> 00:35:06,079
famously asked to

970
00:35:09,510 --> 00:35:07,680
it was it was i'm sure it was a us

971
00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:09,520
military something like that and to

972
00:35:12,950 --> 00:35:11,520
pinpoint a target and they thought he'd

973
00:35:15,190 --> 00:35:12,960
gotten the target wrong but what they'd

974
00:35:18,630 --> 00:35:15,200
actually pinpointed was u.s nuclear

975
00:35:20,390 --> 00:35:18,640
submarine positions out in the sea

976
00:35:21,910 --> 00:35:20,400
yeah am i getting that right

977
00:35:23,910 --> 00:35:21,920
yeah you're right

978
00:35:25,750 --> 00:35:23,920
they've also done

979
00:35:26,550 --> 00:35:25,760
had targets and

980
00:35:28,710 --> 00:35:26,560
they

981
00:35:30,630 --> 00:35:28,720
this is a famous story about pat price

982
00:35:33,030 --> 00:35:30,640
who is one of the famous ones he was a

983
00:35:36,069 --> 00:35:33,040
police detective who utilized his

984
00:35:38,310 --> 00:35:36,079
abilities to bust criminals

985
00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:38,320
and he was one of the very few who could

986
00:35:43,589 --> 00:35:41,280
do level seven phase seven targets and

987
00:35:47,510 --> 00:35:43,599
those are the most difficult like

988
00:35:48,950 --> 00:35:47,520
a sentence or words um very highly

989
00:35:51,109 --> 00:35:48,960
detailed in

990
00:35:53,510 --> 00:35:51,119
information and so they had a target on

991
00:35:55,510 --> 00:35:53,520
a hill for them and he said wait there's

992
00:35:57,910 --> 00:35:55,520
something else more interesting just a

993
00:35:59,750 --> 00:35:57,920
couple miles a mile and a half away up

994
00:36:02,550 --> 00:35:59,760
the hill here and it ended up being a

995
00:36:04,870 --> 00:36:02,560
secret cia listening post he not only

996
00:36:07,109 --> 00:36:04,880
described the area but he went inside

997
00:36:11,030 --> 00:36:07,119
one of the offices opened up one of the

998
00:36:12,630 --> 00:36:11,040
files and named different file programs

999
00:36:14,790 --> 00:36:12,640
folders of them and they were all i

1000
00:36:18,150 --> 00:36:14,800
think related to billiards

1001
00:36:20,069 --> 00:36:18,160
and it was a they nailed it and it was

1002
00:36:22,069 --> 00:36:20,079
so frightful that the cia had to

1003
00:36:23,670 --> 00:36:22,079
reassess the entire program to see what

1004
00:36:26,710 --> 00:36:23,680
they were doing if you know something

1005
00:36:30,150 --> 00:36:26,720
fishy was going on if it was you know

1006
00:36:32,790 --> 00:36:30,160
some spy network or something um

1007
00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:32,800
so that the cia even had you know uh

1008
00:36:36,710 --> 00:36:34,800
controllers and assessors come in every

1009
00:36:39,430 --> 00:36:36,720
year and try and

1010
00:36:41,910 --> 00:36:39,440
you know see the value of this program

1011
00:36:46,069 --> 00:36:41,920
and what they learned to do what russell

1012
00:36:48,310 --> 00:36:46,079
learns to do was to teach the assessor

1013
00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:48,320
how to do basic remote viewing

1014
00:36:53,510 --> 00:36:51,200
and they would do a target

1015
00:36:55,270 --> 00:36:53,520
and they did incredibly well you know

1016
00:36:57,510 --> 00:36:55,280
for their very first time and so that

1017
00:36:58,950 --> 00:36:57,520
helped them continue the program for 20

1018
00:37:00,310 --> 00:36:58,960
years

1019
00:37:03,109 --> 00:37:00,320
it's the sort of thing that would be

1020
00:37:05,030 --> 00:37:03,119
rubbished in documentation and

1021
00:37:07,270 --> 00:37:05,040
and it's can i play down do you think

1022
00:37:08,630 --> 00:37:07,280
it's still something that's widely used

1023
00:37:10,310 --> 00:37:08,640
in the background in these sorts of

1024
00:37:12,790 --> 00:37:10,320
organizations and still something they

1025
00:37:14,710 --> 00:37:12,800
pursue

1026
00:37:15,670 --> 00:37:14,720
not widely used but it is definitely

1027
00:37:16,630 --> 00:37:15,680
used

1028
00:37:18,390 --> 00:37:16,640
okay

1029
00:37:20,310 --> 00:37:18,400
um what are some of the things that

1030
00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:20,320
you've remote viewed that you could talk

1031
00:37:22,950 --> 00:37:21,520
about that

1032
00:37:23,990 --> 00:37:22,960
i don't want to use the word interesting

1033
00:37:27,349 --> 00:37:24,000
because it's all particularly

1034
00:37:28,630 --> 00:37:27,359
interesting but from from a ufo or alien

1035
00:37:31,190 --> 00:37:28,640
point of view have you ever tried to

1036
00:37:32,950 --> 00:37:31,200
remote view something off earth

1037
00:37:34,950 --> 00:37:32,960
on a different you know

1038
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:34,960
the first thing and i always this was

1039
00:37:40,150 --> 00:37:36,960
very important for me is to increase my

1040
00:37:41,829 --> 00:37:40,160
accuracy on verifiable targets first so

1041
00:37:43,670 --> 00:37:41,839
if you know your accuracy on a

1042
00:37:45,670 --> 00:37:43,680
verifiable target when you have a

1043
00:37:49,270 --> 00:37:45,680
unverifiable target at least you'll have

1044
00:37:51,030 --> 00:37:49,280
a general idea how accurate you are so

1045
00:37:53,910 --> 00:37:51,040
after i'd really established that for

1046
00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:53,920
myself um then i started venturing into

1047
00:37:58,950 --> 00:37:56,240
more and more of the ufo stuff but some

1048
00:38:01,430 --> 00:37:58,960
of those just came up with targets um

1049
00:38:06,069 --> 00:38:01,440
grant cameron's assistant had a target

1050
00:38:06,870 --> 00:38:06,079
for me and was testing me and um

1051
00:38:09,270 --> 00:38:06,880
uh

1052
00:38:11,910 --> 00:38:09,280
i drew the drawing in my gestalt was a

1053
00:38:14,390 --> 00:38:11,920
spaceship in space with a big planet

1054
00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:14,400
right next to it another yellow a yellow

1055
00:38:19,270 --> 00:38:17,040
sun and a blue kind of sun

1056
00:38:22,069 --> 00:38:19,280
and the craft kind of going across it

1057
00:38:23,829 --> 00:38:22,079
like this and i kept saying oh this is

1058
00:38:25,109 --> 00:38:23,839
so stupid i'm gonna be you know she's

1059
00:38:28,790 --> 00:38:25,119
gonna i'm gonna fail she's gonna think

1060
00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:28,800
i'm an idiot and it was an exact

1061
00:38:33,109 --> 00:38:30,960
replica of the picture

1062
00:38:34,710 --> 00:38:33,119
um that she had so

1063
00:38:38,069 --> 00:38:34,720
um that was a really neat one i've done

1064
00:38:41,430 --> 00:38:38,079
a bunch of stuff in that area from ufo

1065
00:38:44,950 --> 00:38:41,440
bases to the nimitz incident

1066
00:38:46,420 --> 00:38:44,960
to underwater stuff to stuff on other

1067
00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:46,430
planets um

1068
00:38:50,470 --> 00:38:48,160
[Music]

1069
00:38:52,470 --> 00:38:50,480
to moons of jupiter

1070
00:38:55,109 --> 00:38:52,480
i've done a lot of stuff in fact i was

1071
00:38:56,950 --> 00:38:55,119
just um on the phone with linda moulton

1072
00:38:59,510 --> 00:38:56,960
howe and i had done a series of remote

1073
00:39:02,550 --> 00:38:59,520
viewings about um

1074
00:39:05,030 --> 00:39:02,560
a craft that had crashed in brazil

1075
00:39:06,870 --> 00:39:05,040
and um a u.s program there so i was able

1076
00:39:08,310 --> 00:39:06,880
to describe the craft and the occupants

1077
00:39:10,790 --> 00:39:08,320
and

1078
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:10,800
was that the recent crash in june the

1079
00:39:15,670 --> 00:39:12,960
magi ufo

1080
00:39:18,470 --> 00:39:15,680
yes yep yep i've done a bit of a bonus

1081
00:39:19,349 --> 00:39:18,480
episode on on the the night after it

1082
00:39:22,550 --> 00:39:19,359
broke

1083
00:39:24,390 --> 00:39:22,560
because twitter was lighting up around

1084
00:39:26,069 --> 00:39:24,400
a whole lot of nothing potentially but

1085
00:39:28,950 --> 00:39:26,079
then it was just more and more clips

1086
00:39:31,030 --> 00:39:28,960
coming out and um arthur iglesias who is

1087
00:39:33,510 --> 00:39:31,040
uh lives in the uk but a brazilian

1088
00:39:35,990 --> 00:39:33,520
native was translating the portuguese i

1089
00:39:37,190 --> 00:39:36,000
believe it was and letting us know this

1090
00:39:38,950 --> 00:39:37,200
is what they're saying and these people

1091
00:39:42,310 --> 00:39:38,960
are really panicked and something has

1092
00:39:44,230 --> 00:39:42,320
happened and i've done somebody i hadn't

1093
00:39:46,390 --> 00:39:44,240
heard about it you know you know pardon

1094
00:39:48,710 --> 00:39:46,400
my ignorance until she told me about it

1095
00:39:51,430 --> 00:39:48,720
you know today basically and all i got

1096
00:39:52,310 --> 00:39:51,440
was a longitude in latitude and you know

1097
00:39:54,310 --> 00:39:52,320
i just

1098
00:39:55,430 --> 00:39:54,320
just you know did a very long viewing

1099
00:39:57,109 --> 00:39:55,440
and i think that's going to air on her

1100
00:39:58,470 --> 00:39:57,119
channel tomorrow night

1101
00:40:00,150 --> 00:39:58,480
okay

1102
00:40:02,069 --> 00:40:00,160
so from from what i had looked at

1103
00:40:05,030 --> 00:40:02,079
initially then um

1104
00:40:08,230 --> 00:40:05,040
something potentially crashed near a

1105
00:40:10,550 --> 00:40:08,240
munitions base where they basically

1106
00:40:12,390 --> 00:40:10,560
make ammunition however there wasn't

1107
00:40:14,390 --> 00:40:12,400
meant to be any activity really at the

1108
00:40:17,109 --> 00:40:14,400
time near the base nothing outside the

1109
00:40:18,470 --> 00:40:17,119
normal and after this and there would

1110
00:40:20,470 --> 00:40:18,480
have been lights in the sky for a few

1111
00:40:21,990 --> 00:40:20,480
nights apparently there and there's a

1112
00:40:22,829 --> 00:40:22,000
few different videos on there some of

1113
00:40:25,589 --> 00:40:22,839
them are

1114
00:40:27,910 --> 00:40:25,599
unfortunately fakes from previous events

1115
00:40:29,829 --> 00:40:27,920
or carnivals or drone shows but they

1116
00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:29,839
were inter-spliced with some of the

1117
00:40:35,109 --> 00:40:31,920
actual footage that people had taken

1118
00:40:37,510 --> 00:40:35,119
so this object had crashed and it looks

1119
00:40:38,470 --> 00:40:37,520
quite um forest the area like quite

1120
00:40:40,069 --> 00:40:38,480
forestry

1121
00:40:42,950 --> 00:40:40,079
and then you can see the smoke coming

1122
00:40:44,630 --> 00:40:42,960
from the hills after that it went kind

1123
00:40:46,550 --> 00:40:44,640
of quiet and then there was rumors that

1124
00:40:48,309 --> 00:40:46,560
there was a lot of u.s presence there

1125
00:40:49,750 --> 00:40:48,319
that the u.s military had gone and

1126
00:40:51,589 --> 00:40:49,760
cleaned things up

1127
00:40:53,270 --> 00:40:51,599
and it was very much

1128
00:40:54,950 --> 00:40:53,280
it disappeared

1129
00:40:57,030 --> 00:40:54,960
read it shut it down and it was removed

1130
00:40:59,109 --> 00:40:57,040
off of reddit there was a lot of admins

1131
00:41:00,470 --> 00:40:59,119
and blocking and i'm not a big reddit

1132
00:41:01,750 --> 00:41:00,480
user some people might be surprised to

1133
00:41:03,270 --> 00:41:01,760
know that but it's something i've just

1134
00:41:05,990 --> 00:41:03,280
never really got around to to getting

1135
00:41:09,109 --> 00:41:06,000
into but reddit started banning a lot of

1136
00:41:10,870 --> 00:41:09,119
the phrases like maggie ufo of nemaji

1137
00:41:14,309 --> 00:41:10,880
which is obviously the portuguese for

1138
00:41:15,910 --> 00:41:14,319
ufo um so yeah that became a bit of a

1139
00:41:17,750 --> 00:41:15,920
overnight sensation and then really

1140
00:41:19,270 --> 00:41:17,760
quickly disappeared but that's

1141
00:41:21,109 --> 00:41:19,280
interesting that um that there's been

1142
00:41:22,470 --> 00:41:21,119
more can i came over and is there

1143
00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:22,480
anything you would say that you could

1144
00:41:26,550 --> 00:41:24,800
say more on it that you did see

1145
00:41:28,710 --> 00:41:26,560
absolutely there is a crash there are

1146
00:41:31,349 --> 00:41:28,720
occupants um

1147
00:41:33,670 --> 00:41:31,359
uh there is a u.s program that used to

1148
00:41:35,589 --> 00:41:33,680
be more international now it's more just

1149
00:41:37,829 --> 00:41:35,599
the united states

1150
00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:37,839
in south america

1151
00:41:42,150 --> 00:41:39,760
because there's a long history of

1152
00:41:44,069 --> 00:41:42,160
essentially like an e.t highway that

1153
00:41:46,710 --> 00:41:44,079
flies over peru

1154
00:41:49,270 --> 00:41:46,720
and into the rainforest of brazil

1155
00:41:50,950 --> 00:41:49,280
and um it's been going on for a long

1156
00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:50,960
time it may even be the cause of the

1157
00:41:55,190 --> 00:41:52,400
giant animal

1158
00:41:56,790 --> 00:41:55,200
glyphs on in nascar

1159
00:41:58,470 --> 00:41:56,800
but this has been going on for a long

1160
00:42:00,069 --> 00:41:58,480
time and there's other you know

1161
00:42:02,710 --> 00:42:00,079
whistleblowers in the military who've

1162
00:42:04,470 --> 00:42:02,720
spoken about this project and program

1163
00:42:06,390 --> 00:42:04,480
so it was a little bit about the project

1164
00:42:08,470 --> 00:42:06,400
and the program and the crash and the

1165
00:42:11,670 --> 00:42:08,480
crash retrieval and where they took the

1166
00:42:13,510 --> 00:42:11,680
crash afterwards they took it to a

1167
00:42:16,390 --> 00:42:13,520
way station base in peru and then from

1168
00:42:19,270 --> 00:42:16,400
there they took the biological

1169
00:42:21,750 --> 00:42:19,280
the samples let's say

1170
00:42:25,510 --> 00:42:21,760
beings and the craft they flew it in one

1171
00:42:27,430 --> 00:42:25,520
of those giant sea whatever's hercules

1172
00:42:29,670 --> 00:42:27,440
it was refueled in the air and they flew

1173
00:42:32,309 --> 00:42:29,680
it straight to wright-patterson air base

1174
00:42:34,630 --> 00:42:32,319
and um right pat

1175
00:42:36,230 --> 00:42:34,640
there were some leaked documents in

1176
00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:36,240
budgetary stuff that

1177
00:42:41,750 --> 00:42:38,160
was very strong

1178
00:42:44,550 --> 00:42:41,760
evidence that there is a space

1179
00:42:47,430 --> 00:42:44,560
base essentially a space command under

1180
00:42:49,990 --> 00:42:47,440
right pat and they had several levels of

1181
00:42:52,390 --> 00:42:50,000
biological containment and the u.s had

1182
00:42:54,950 --> 00:42:52,400
just put i think you know like 500

1183
00:42:56,550 --> 00:42:54,960
million dollars into the improvement of

1184
00:42:58,870 --> 00:42:56,560
the um

1185
00:43:01,109 --> 00:42:58,880
containment of the labs in there or

1186
00:43:02,870 --> 00:43:01,119
something so uh

1187
00:43:04,790 --> 00:43:02,880
you know that's basically what happened

1188
00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:04,800
with that and that the biological stuff

1189
00:43:08,710 --> 00:43:06,240
stayed there

1190
00:43:12,150 --> 00:43:08,720
and that the craft was then after a

1191
00:43:14,150 --> 00:43:12,160
couple days transported to tonopah

1192
00:43:16,230 --> 00:43:14,160
which is another base

1193
00:43:18,230 --> 00:43:16,240
did you see anything to do with one of

1194
00:43:19,750 --> 00:43:18,240
these occupants being shot because that

1195
00:43:21,589 --> 00:43:19,760
was one of the rumors of the time there

1196
00:43:24,630 --> 00:43:21,599
was a guy they were all shot ultimately

1197
00:43:26,150 --> 00:43:24,640
right yeah there was gunshots

1198
00:43:28,069 --> 00:43:26,160
yeah that was one thing that came out

1199
00:43:30,550 --> 00:43:28,079
from the locals that they had a round of

1200
00:43:32,630 --> 00:43:30,560
gunshots after the military had

1201
00:43:34,309 --> 00:43:32,640
apparently gone to the area and they

1202
00:43:36,150 --> 00:43:34,319
were certain that these things had been

1203
00:43:38,470 --> 00:43:36,160
had been shot so that's that's

1204
00:43:40,630 --> 00:43:38,480
particularly interesting as well yeah

1205
00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:40,640
and one of the uh beings apparently

1206
00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:43,440
survived for a few hours after being

1207
00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:47,920
shot and was speaking in portuguese

1208
00:43:52,550 --> 00:43:50,640
right so um very human isn't it uh you

1209
00:43:55,349 --> 00:43:52,560
know well welcome to earth and will

1210
00:43:57,670 --> 00:43:55,359
smith punches you in the face or right

1211
00:43:59,349 --> 00:43:57,680
the us military come up and shoot you

1212
00:44:00,309 --> 00:43:59,359
what i've said so many times is like you

1213
00:44:02,630 --> 00:44:00,319
know

1214
00:44:04,470 --> 00:44:02,640
militaries want to and men especially we

1215
00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:04,480
want to take something and smash it and

1216
00:44:09,349 --> 00:44:07,280
see how it's made you know but will we

1217
00:44:11,589 --> 00:44:09,359
learn more from a broken watch

1218
00:44:13,670 --> 00:44:11,599
will we learn more from an entire

1219
00:44:16,550 --> 00:44:13,680
perfect watch or would we learn more

1220
00:44:17,910 --> 00:44:16,560
from talking to the watchmakers

1221
00:44:21,430 --> 00:44:17,920
you know i think we've made the very

1222
00:44:22,950 --> 00:44:21,440
poor decision of trying to just smash

1223
00:44:25,430 --> 00:44:22,960
the watches

1224
00:44:27,829 --> 00:44:25,440
and not be smart enough to make the

1225
00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:27,839
communications with these advanced

1226
00:44:32,790 --> 00:44:30,160
craft that they've been reaching out to

1227
00:44:36,710 --> 00:44:32,800
us there's many many incidents in ufo

1228
00:44:37,670 --> 00:44:36,720
history of craft mimicking

1229
00:44:39,190 --> 00:44:37,680
people

1230
00:44:42,069 --> 00:44:39,200
either with you know someone will flash

1231
00:44:43,829 --> 00:44:42,079
a flashlight twice like allagash and

1232
00:44:45,030 --> 00:44:43,839
it'll flash twice and then they'll wait

1233
00:44:46,950 --> 00:44:45,040
for the next advancement of

1234
00:44:49,030 --> 00:44:46,960
communication and we don't know what to

1235
00:44:50,309 --> 00:44:49,040
do and they're on a mission until they

1236
00:44:51,430 --> 00:44:50,319
get bored they're like oh this will take

1237
00:44:53,109 --> 00:44:51,440
too long

1238
00:44:56,710 --> 00:44:53,119
and go off to their mission even the

1239
00:44:59,910 --> 00:44:56,720
nimitz incidents the famous one of late

1240
00:45:01,030 --> 00:44:59,920
the craft was physically

1241
00:45:02,550 --> 00:45:01,040
mimicking

1242
00:45:05,109 --> 00:45:02,560
the jet fighter

1243
00:45:06,550 --> 00:45:05,119
counter rotating yeah and

1244
00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:06,560
you know there's

1245
00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:07,680
uh

1246
00:45:13,190 --> 00:45:09,839
it just takes a little bit more patience

1247
00:45:14,870 --> 00:45:13,200
i think and tenacity and brain power to

1248
00:45:15,670 --> 00:45:14,880
make that communication happen but i

1249
00:45:17,030 --> 00:45:15,680
think

1250
00:45:18,710 --> 00:45:17,040
you know we're so desperate for this

1251
00:45:19,910 --> 00:45:18,720
advanced technology that we're willing

1252
00:45:21,750 --> 00:45:19,920
to do anything

1253
00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:21,760
and even luis elizondo said you know

1254
00:45:27,190 --> 00:45:24,800
south america is very hot right now

1255
00:45:30,950 --> 00:45:27,200
and luis elizondo who's you know the the

1256
00:45:33,270 --> 00:45:30,960
ex-government guy who's now at ttsa um

1257
00:45:35,349 --> 00:45:33,280
has a very a speech i think it was in

1258
00:45:36,950 --> 00:45:35,359
spain where he said you know the most

1259
00:45:38,309 --> 00:45:36,960
important work right now is going on in

1260
00:45:39,349 --> 00:45:38,319
south america and i really can't say

1261
00:45:40,309 --> 00:45:39,359
anymore

1262
00:45:44,630 --> 00:45:40,319
so

1263
00:45:46,950 --> 00:45:44,640
anthony lippe who is the executive

1264
00:45:47,990 --> 00:45:46,960
producer of the unidentified documentary

1265
00:45:49,990 --> 00:45:48,000
series

1266
00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:50,000
now oh interesting this interview with

1267
00:45:54,870 --> 00:45:52,560
you won't go out for another week or two

1268
00:45:56,790 --> 00:45:54,880
my interview with anthony is allowed to

1269
00:45:58,630 --> 00:45:56,800
go out uh i've got permission from the

1270
00:46:02,150 --> 00:45:58,640
network tomorrow which would be the 8th

1271
00:46:05,589 --> 00:46:02,160
of july so um in preparation for the new

1272
00:46:06,870 --> 00:46:05,599
series and anthony as people will hear

1273
00:46:09,589 --> 00:46:06,880
given this interview is going to be out

1274
00:46:11,270 --> 00:46:09,599
after the the series starts was very

1275
00:46:13,910 --> 00:46:11,280
very good in what he talked about to do

1276
00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:13,920
the new series and he talked at length

1277
00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:16,240
about luis elizondo traveling to south

1278
00:46:20,630 --> 00:46:18,240
america and he would not name the

1279
00:46:23,270 --> 00:46:20,640
countries what he did say

1280
00:46:25,990 --> 00:46:23,280
is a huge part of the series and he goes

1281
00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:26,000
there for very very important talks with

1282
00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:28,400
some national leaders and there's a

1283
00:46:32,150 --> 00:46:30,960
whole area of the the show based there

1284
00:46:34,230 --> 00:46:32,160
so that's interesting you say that about

1285
00:46:36,230 --> 00:46:34,240
south america and i know that's a strong

1286
00:46:38,790 --> 00:46:36,240
part of the series coming up

1287
00:46:40,470 --> 00:46:38,800
and there is what was a secret program

1288
00:46:42,550 --> 00:46:40,480
like i was saying before that's taking

1289
00:46:45,990 --> 00:46:42,560
place in south america with basically

1290
00:46:47,829 --> 00:46:46,000
these teams that's a special unit

1291
00:46:49,589 --> 00:46:47,839
and there's other locations for them

1292
00:46:50,630 --> 00:46:49,599
across the world

1293
00:46:51,910 --> 00:46:50,640
um

1294
00:46:54,710 --> 00:46:51,920
and uh

1295
00:46:56,870 --> 00:46:54,720
this is their job to get

1296
00:46:58,150 --> 00:46:56,880
these materials first

1297
00:47:00,470 --> 00:46:58,160
and uh

1298
00:47:02,790 --> 00:47:00,480
it's very this is a very

1299
00:47:05,109 --> 00:47:02,800
complex tapestry

1300
00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:05,119
a lot of interweaving agencies groups

1301
00:47:08,390 --> 00:47:06,960
organizations and

1302
00:47:09,670 --> 00:47:08,400
you know information

1303
00:47:12,230 --> 00:47:09,680
so this is the question that i'll have

1304
00:47:13,750 --> 00:47:12,240
to ask you then given your ability to

1305
00:47:17,670 --> 00:47:13,760
see these things

1306
00:47:19,270 --> 00:47:17,680
why do these objects crash

1307
00:47:21,349 --> 00:47:19,280
well

1308
00:47:23,109 --> 00:47:21,359
it seems like

1309
00:47:26,069 --> 00:47:23,119
many of the crashes have been

1310
00:47:29,510 --> 00:47:26,079
essentially gifts

1311
00:47:30,950 --> 00:47:29,520
and if you look at how many have crashed

1312
00:47:33,190 --> 00:47:30,960
around the world

1313
00:47:36,390 --> 00:47:33,200
they seem to be gifts

1314
00:47:38,630 --> 00:47:36,400
without a way of scaring us too much

1315
00:47:40,230 --> 00:47:38,640
these crashed objects would be there and

1316
00:47:41,190 --> 00:47:40,240
you wonder what is the purpose of the

1317
00:47:44,069 --> 00:47:41,200
gift

1318
00:47:45,750 --> 00:47:44,079
the planet

1319
00:47:47,910 --> 00:47:45,760
is the gift the technology that's on

1320
00:47:49,829 --> 00:47:47,920
these craft that could help

1321
00:47:51,670 --> 00:47:49,839
you know our our environment and our

1322
00:47:53,430 --> 00:47:51,680
planet and our species

1323
00:47:56,549 --> 00:47:53,440
or is it

1324
00:47:59,589 --> 00:47:56,559
undeniable physical proof

1325
00:48:02,630 --> 00:47:59,599
that advanced civilizations exist

1326
00:48:04,069 --> 00:48:02,640
which is a very very powerful piece of

1327
00:48:05,109 --> 00:48:04,079
evidence

1328
00:48:06,790 --> 00:48:05,119
so

1329
00:48:08,150 --> 00:48:06,800
for me i think

1330
00:48:10,069 --> 00:48:08,160
you know the most

1331
00:48:11,349 --> 00:48:10,079
well go ahead please no i i just want to

1332
00:48:14,069 --> 00:48:11,359
follow up that

1333
00:48:16,790 --> 00:48:14,079
i i'm all for these things potentially

1334
00:48:18,630 --> 00:48:16,800
being gifts or you know like it's like

1335
00:48:20,069 --> 00:48:18,640
loot drops if you're if you're a gamer

1336
00:48:21,829 --> 00:48:20,079
you know that you're getting this gift

1337
00:48:24,390 --> 00:48:21,839
dropped in here here's how choose how

1338
00:48:26,549 --> 00:48:24,400
you use it wisely but if these things

1339
00:48:28,390 --> 00:48:26,559
have biological entities on board are we

1340
00:48:30,150 --> 00:48:28,400
saying that these things

1341
00:48:31,510 --> 00:48:30,160
that the

1342
00:48:33,109 --> 00:48:31,520
they are

1343
00:48:35,190 --> 00:48:33,119
they're dispensable

1344
00:48:36,390 --> 00:48:35,200
that there are potentially clones and

1345
00:48:38,950 --> 00:48:36,400
that you know if you're going to crash

1346
00:48:40,470 --> 00:48:38,960
something you can't continue

1347
00:48:42,230 --> 00:48:40,480
yes they're second generation beings

1348
00:48:45,670 --> 00:48:42,240
that were created for space flight and

1349
00:48:48,069 --> 00:48:45,680
stuff but not all of the craft are gifts

1350
00:48:50,069 --> 00:48:48,079
they come here to this planet because

1351
00:48:52,470 --> 00:48:50,079
you would imagine

1352
00:48:54,390 --> 00:48:52,480
being a really advanced race the most

1353
00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:54,400
valuable thing in the universe is not

1354
00:48:58,710 --> 00:48:57,119
monatomic gold or any element that they

1355
00:49:01,190 --> 00:48:58,720
could find in greater amounts other

1356
00:49:04,390 --> 00:49:01,200
places in the universe the most valuable

1357
00:49:07,829 --> 00:49:04,400
thing is data information

1358
00:49:09,829 --> 00:49:07,839
knowledge is power information is power

1359
00:49:13,430 --> 00:49:09,839
and life forms

1360
00:49:14,549 --> 00:49:13,440
are one of the densest forms of data

1361
00:49:16,630 --> 00:49:14,559
there is

1362
00:49:18,790 --> 00:49:16,640
it's not just the life form it's uh

1363
00:49:20,549 --> 00:49:18,800
their environment their interaction with

1364
00:49:22,390 --> 00:49:20,559
their habitat their

1365
00:49:24,150 --> 00:49:22,400
their consciousness their interactions

1366
00:49:26,390 --> 00:49:24,160
with others of their species and on and

1367
00:49:28,150 --> 00:49:26,400
on and on and on and to me it's a

1368
00:49:31,190 --> 00:49:28,160
testament to

1369
00:49:34,150 --> 00:49:31,200
god's amazing

1370
00:49:36,790 --> 00:49:34,160
universal biology that advanced

1371
00:49:39,589 --> 00:49:36,800
civilizations would even need to look at

1372
00:49:41,109 --> 00:49:39,599
our plant life they couldn't foresee it

1373
00:49:43,430 --> 00:49:41,119
they couldn't foresee this chance and

1374
00:49:46,150 --> 00:49:43,440
that chance no there's so many complex

1375
00:49:48,150 --> 00:49:46,160
things that have created the unique

1376
00:49:49,589 --> 00:49:48,160
species that are on this planet that are

1377
00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:49,599
similar to many others around the

1378
00:49:54,790 --> 00:49:51,760
universe but

1379
00:49:55,910 --> 00:49:54,800
are uniquely precious to earth

1380
00:49:58,710 --> 00:49:55,920
so

1381
00:50:01,510 --> 00:49:58,720
there's been a very long history of ufos

1382
00:50:03,589 --> 00:50:01,520
scanning forests scanning woods and

1383
00:50:04,630 --> 00:50:03,599
going to the rain forest which is the

1384
00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:04,640
densest

1385
00:50:09,109 --> 00:50:07,200
area for life on the diverse life on the

1386
00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:09,119
planet

1387
00:50:13,030 --> 00:50:11,520
awesome now that's good that's slightly

1388
00:50:14,150 --> 00:50:13,040
off the track i was going to go down but

1389
00:50:15,670 --> 00:50:14,160
that was really interesting you brought

1390
00:50:18,470 --> 00:50:15,680
up there brazil so some really good

1391
00:50:20,309 --> 00:50:18,480
conversation there thank you um so just

1392
00:50:21,589 --> 00:50:20,319
sticking out round off the because i'm

1393
00:50:24,470 --> 00:50:21,599
going to touch back on some of this

1394
00:50:28,230 --> 00:50:24,480
stuff um if someone wanted to explore

1395
00:50:29,750 --> 00:50:28,240
remote viewing or um psi abilities what

1396
00:50:31,910 --> 00:50:29,760
would you recommend how do they start

1397
00:50:33,670 --> 00:50:31,920
how do they get into it

1398
00:50:36,549 --> 00:50:33,680
um it's easy there's certain videos

1399
00:50:39,430 --> 00:50:36,559
there's a great video um from prudence

1400
00:50:41,190 --> 00:50:39,440
calabrese it's she has like five videos

1401
00:50:42,870 --> 00:50:41,200
you just watch the first one with a pen

1402
00:50:45,270 --> 00:50:42,880
and a pad and she'll walk you through

1403
00:50:47,510 --> 00:50:45,280
the process and during that

1404
00:50:49,349 --> 00:50:47,520
um

1405
00:50:50,870 --> 00:50:49,359
episode you get to do your very first

1406
00:50:52,630 --> 00:50:50,880
remote viewing

1407
00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:52,640
and then there's the best teacher i

1408
00:51:00,230 --> 00:50:56,400
think now is dr simeon heim who um

1409
00:51:02,549 --> 00:51:00,240
has his website is newcrystalminds.com

1410
00:51:05,270 --> 00:51:02,559
and i've taken several of his classes

1411
00:51:07,270 --> 00:51:05,280
and um he's just a great great teacher

1412
00:51:09,670 --> 00:51:07,280
you can go to that new crystalmine.com

1413
00:51:11,670 --> 00:51:09,680
site and get a bunch of free information

1414
00:51:13,990 --> 00:51:11,680
and of course you can take classes but

1415
00:51:17,510 --> 00:51:14,000
i'd be very careful about you know what

1416
00:51:20,230 --> 00:51:17,520
classes you take when where etc

1417
00:51:22,470 --> 00:51:20,240
how would you like to see remote viewing

1418
00:51:26,630 --> 00:51:22,480
or these abilities integrated in a

1419
00:51:28,470 --> 00:51:26,640
society as it stands in 2020

1420
00:51:30,710 --> 00:51:28,480
well i think you know we teach our kids

1421
00:51:32,309 --> 00:51:30,720
and our kids have physical education

1422
00:51:34,790 --> 00:51:32,319
growing up i think they should have

1423
00:51:35,670 --> 00:51:34,800
consciousness education

1424
00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:35,680
and

1425
00:51:40,150 --> 00:51:38,480
there's a lot of benefits to it

1426
00:51:43,109 --> 00:51:40,160
so much of this ability all of these

1427
00:51:45,030 --> 00:51:43,119
abilities kind of boiled down to

1428
00:51:47,030 --> 00:51:45,040
empathy

1429
00:51:48,549 --> 00:51:47,040
and like i was saying with the tuning

1430
00:51:50,870 --> 00:51:48,559
forks if you

1431
00:51:52,790 --> 00:51:50,880
if you empathize with something if you

1432
00:51:54,549 --> 00:51:52,800
connect with it if you try and resonate

1433
00:51:56,790 --> 00:51:54,559
with it

1434
00:51:58,230 --> 00:51:56,800
information and data starts flowing once

1435
00:51:59,589 --> 00:51:58,240
you make that connection like the two

1436
00:52:01,030 --> 00:51:59,599
tuning forks are reaching the right

1437
00:52:03,430 --> 00:52:01,040
frequency

1438
00:52:06,150 --> 00:52:03,440
so if we taught kids empathy and that

1439
00:52:08,390 --> 00:52:06,160
they could learn super powers

1440
00:52:11,109 --> 00:52:08,400
essentially i think there'd be a lot

1441
00:52:13,030 --> 00:52:11,119
less school shootings and we would know

1442
00:52:15,750 --> 00:52:13,040
how each other feel we would care how

1443
00:52:18,150 --> 00:52:15,760
each other feel i think human potential

1444
00:52:19,430 --> 00:52:18,160
is so much more than we have allowed

1445
00:52:21,349 --> 00:52:19,440
ourselves

1446
00:52:23,750 --> 00:52:21,359
so i would love to see us

1447
00:52:25,109 --> 00:52:23,760
explore human potential

1448
00:52:27,190 --> 00:52:25,119
unbridled

1449
00:52:29,990 --> 00:52:27,200
free unchained without any sense of

1450
00:52:32,630 --> 00:52:30,000
shame without any judgment um you know

1451
00:52:34,950 --> 00:52:32,640
or mockery so people would have the

1452
00:52:36,790 --> 00:52:34,960
right to or kids would have the right to

1453
00:52:38,870 --> 00:52:36,800
fail big

1454
00:52:40,950 --> 00:52:38,880
and it helps not just with this stuff

1455
00:52:42,950 --> 00:52:40,960
with psychic stuff if you give them a

1456
00:52:45,109 --> 00:52:42,960
space to learn

1457
00:52:46,950 --> 00:52:45,119
and they can fail really big you may get

1458
00:52:50,870 --> 00:52:46,960
the best dance ever or the best

1459
00:52:51,990 --> 00:52:50,880
architecture ever or the best music ever

1460
00:52:56,470 --> 00:52:52,000
so

1461
00:52:59,109 --> 00:52:56,480
to human potential

1462
00:53:01,990 --> 00:52:59,119
and i think those abilities should be

1463
00:53:03,270 --> 00:53:02,000
very calmly and without woo

1464
00:53:04,710 --> 00:53:03,280
and you know

1465
00:53:07,750 --> 00:53:04,720
over-the-top

1466
00:53:09,750 --> 00:53:07,760
spiritualism they should be encouraged

1467
00:53:12,150 --> 00:53:09,760
because it's one of our senses you know

1468
00:53:14,309 --> 00:53:12,160
grandma everyone's grandma has the sense

1469
00:53:15,750 --> 00:53:14,319
of intuition you know would say don't do

1470
00:53:17,430 --> 00:53:15,760
this or this will happen and you'll be

1471
00:53:18,630 --> 00:53:17,440
like oh right grandma then it happens

1472
00:53:20,950 --> 00:53:18,640
the next day and you're like how did

1473
00:53:21,829 --> 00:53:20,960
grandma know you know

1474
00:53:24,710 --> 00:53:21,839
and

1475
00:53:26,870 --> 00:53:24,720
um we know through many years of you

1476
00:53:29,430 --> 00:53:26,880
know studies that the power of prayer

1477
00:53:31,349 --> 00:53:29,440
works over distances we know a lot of

1478
00:53:33,990 --> 00:53:31,359
these little pieces we just haven't put

1479
00:53:35,750 --> 00:53:34,000
it all together yet but we're close and

1480
00:53:37,990 --> 00:53:35,760
we're i think there's a little bit less

1481
00:53:41,190 --> 00:53:38,000
shame nowadays to explore this as there

1482
00:53:43,349 --> 00:53:41,200
was maybe 10 20 years ago

1483
00:53:45,190 --> 00:53:43,359
absolutely so one of your own

1484
00:53:47,270 --> 00:53:45,200
philosophies and i take this from your

1485
00:53:48,630 --> 00:53:47,280
bio and from your videos and you know

1486
00:53:49,910 --> 00:53:48,640
just get in the last couple of weeks a

1487
00:53:51,910 --> 00:53:49,920
sense of kind of what you do and what

1488
00:53:53,670 --> 00:53:51,920
you stand for there's a lot of talk of

1489
00:53:56,870 --> 00:53:53,680
you know everything's connected a lot of

1490
00:53:59,109 --> 00:53:56,880
on love um a lot of oneness and a lot of

1491
00:54:01,510 --> 00:53:59,119
consciousness do you think humanity

1492
00:54:05,190 --> 00:54:01,520
where we stand as a species is anywhere

1493
00:54:07,030 --> 00:54:05,200
near ready for that next step to to have

1494
00:54:09,589 --> 00:54:07,040
that in its thinking

1495
00:54:12,710 --> 00:54:11,430
as technology grows it gets more and

1496
00:54:14,150 --> 00:54:12,720
more dangerous and more and more

1497
00:54:16,630 --> 00:54:14,160
powerful

1498
00:54:17,670 --> 00:54:16,640
and spiritually we haven't grown that

1499
00:54:19,430 --> 00:54:17,680
much

1500
00:54:21,589 --> 00:54:19,440
as our technology is growing and our

1501
00:54:23,109 --> 00:54:21,599
technology is growing faster and faster

1502
00:54:26,309 --> 00:54:23,119
and in fact becomes more and more

1503
00:54:30,710 --> 00:54:28,870
you know to us to our race

1504
00:54:33,109 --> 00:54:30,720
you know as obviously demonstrated by

1505
00:54:34,470 --> 00:54:33,119
nuclear weapons and stuff

1506
00:54:36,309 --> 00:54:34,480
and it just

1507
00:54:38,870 --> 00:54:36,319
it's essential that we explore this

1508
00:54:41,510 --> 00:54:38,880
stuff you know it's

1509
00:54:42,789 --> 00:54:41,520
crucial to our future i believe

1510
00:54:45,430 --> 00:54:42,799
and

1511
00:54:47,990 --> 00:54:45,440
when these advanced races visited visit

1512
00:54:50,950 --> 00:54:48,000
us there's so many

1513
00:54:52,470 --> 00:54:50,960
stories of them using these abilities

1514
00:54:54,309 --> 00:54:52,480
communicating

1515
00:54:56,069 --> 00:54:54,319
you know telepathically

1516
00:54:56,950 --> 00:54:56,079
moving objects

1517
00:54:58,710 --> 00:54:56,960
knowing

1518
00:55:00,549 --> 00:54:58,720
having precognition of what people are

1519
00:55:02,549 --> 00:55:00,559
going to be doing reading their minds

1520
00:55:03,990 --> 00:55:02,559
all sorts of things like that so i think

1521
00:55:05,589 --> 00:55:04,000
you know it's

1522
00:55:07,270 --> 00:55:05,599
once we're able to nail it down as

1523
00:55:09,270 --> 00:55:07,280
physics

1524
00:55:12,549 --> 00:55:09,280
and take away the mystery and the

1525
00:55:14,390 --> 00:55:12,559
spiritual fear and the phenomena aspect

1526
00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:14,400
of it it will be

1527
00:55:18,870 --> 00:55:16,240
so much more useful than the

1528
00:55:21,430 --> 00:55:18,880
electromagnetic field was

1529
00:55:23,990 --> 00:55:21,440
and is for us 200 years after it was

1530
00:55:26,069 --> 00:55:24,000
discovered after this guy squashed all

1531
00:55:27,990 --> 00:55:26,079
the phenomena and unified it into

1532
00:55:30,789 --> 00:55:28,000
science it's you know we couldn't live

1533
00:55:33,030 --> 00:55:30,799
without the electromagnetic field now

1534
00:55:35,829 --> 00:55:33,040
and i have a feeling that you know if we

1535
00:55:38,870 --> 00:55:35,839
make it 200 years in the future uh it

1536
00:55:40,549 --> 00:55:38,880
will be one of our most used uh aspects

1537
00:55:41,990 --> 00:55:40,559
of reality

1538
00:55:43,670 --> 00:55:42,000
i think the way things are going in a

1539
00:55:44,710 --> 00:55:43,680
minute if we make it um another year

1540
00:55:46,309 --> 00:55:44,720
into the future it would be an

1541
00:55:49,030 --> 00:55:46,319
achievement so

1542
00:55:50,789 --> 00:55:49,040
2020 has thrown a lot at it so far

1543
00:55:53,190 --> 00:55:50,799
yeah who knows how long it will survive

1544
00:55:55,430 --> 00:55:53,200
but it's not looking good so just to

1545
00:55:57,589 --> 00:55:55,440
start wrapping up then um i want to talk

1546
00:55:59,190 --> 00:55:57,599
about your i've got the word work down

1547
00:56:01,190 --> 00:55:59,200
here but i noticed you actually changed

1548
00:56:03,109 --> 00:56:01,200
it yourself to play that you weren't

1549
00:56:05,750 --> 00:56:03,119
working on skinwalker ranch it was more

1550
00:56:07,430 --> 00:56:05,760
play so your play on skinwalker ranch

1551
00:56:11,030 --> 00:56:07,440
recently was acknowledged by brandon

1552
00:56:11,910 --> 00:56:11,040
fugle what was that experience like

1553
00:56:13,589 --> 00:56:11,920
oh

1554
00:56:16,390 --> 00:56:13,599
just

1555
00:56:17,349 --> 00:56:16,400
i'm still interacting with them and

1556
00:56:19,510 --> 00:56:17,359
playing

1557
00:56:21,510 --> 00:56:19,520
with the head scientists and

1558
00:56:23,030 --> 00:56:21,520
it's been

1559
00:56:25,109 --> 00:56:23,040
the most amazing

1560
00:56:27,750 --> 00:56:25,119
experiences of my entire life

1561
00:56:30,230 --> 00:56:27,760
and the most broadening of my horizons

1562
00:56:32,549 --> 00:56:30,240
and increase of my abilities and

1563
00:56:34,150 --> 00:56:32,559
exploration of these abilities

1564
00:56:35,750 --> 00:56:34,160
and it's been for two years you know it

1565
00:56:37,910 --> 00:56:35,760
was a real big secret for a long time

1566
00:56:39,589 --> 00:56:37,920
and i couldn't talk about you know

1567
00:56:42,309 --> 00:56:39,599
working

1568
00:56:43,670 --> 00:56:42,319
with the head scientists there and

1569
00:56:46,470 --> 00:56:43,680
um

1570
00:56:47,270 --> 00:56:46,480
it has just been a wonderful experience

1571
00:56:48,630 --> 00:56:47,280
um

1572
00:56:50,710 --> 00:56:48,640
how did it come about you getting

1573
00:56:52,630 --> 00:56:50,720
involved with skinwalker ranch

1574
00:56:54,470 --> 00:56:52,640
it's a long convoluted story but i've

1575
00:56:57,430 --> 00:56:54,480
always had a tendency to try and help

1576
00:56:59,910 --> 00:56:57,440
people and help groups and you know i

1577
00:57:01,510 --> 00:56:59,920
have every day i go for a patrol i call

1578
00:57:02,870 --> 00:57:01,520
it and i try and find a homeless person

1579
00:57:04,230 --> 00:57:02,880
and help them or someone in need and

1580
00:57:07,430 --> 00:57:04,240
help them

1581
00:57:09,430 --> 00:57:07,440
and there was a a scam

1582
00:57:12,710 --> 00:57:09,440
uh that was going on

1583
00:57:13,990 --> 00:57:12,720
and i had helped a group of people and

1584
00:57:15,910 --> 00:57:14,000
one of the people just happened to be

1585
00:57:17,750 --> 00:57:15,920
the owner of skinwalker ranch

1586
00:57:19,750 --> 00:57:17,760
and that

1587
00:57:20,870 --> 00:57:19,760
friendship grew

1588
00:57:22,789 --> 00:57:20,880
uh

1589
00:57:24,630 --> 00:57:22,799
and grew and it was just based on

1590
00:57:26,470 --> 00:57:24,640
friendship and honor and decency and

1591
00:57:29,349 --> 00:57:26,480
doing the right thing and i found the

1592
00:57:30,390 --> 00:57:29,359
integrity of brandon to be absolutely

1593
00:57:32,710 --> 00:57:30,400
you know

1594
00:57:34,549 --> 00:57:32,720
incredible and for such a wealthy

1595
00:57:38,309 --> 00:57:34,559
influential gentleman to take the time

1596
00:57:40,870 --> 00:57:38,319
to you know be patient with uh me and to

1597
00:57:42,630 --> 00:57:40,880
introduce me to his head scientist and

1598
00:57:44,309 --> 00:57:42,640
allow me to play

1599
00:57:46,230 --> 00:57:44,319
and explore

1600
00:57:47,990 --> 00:57:46,240
um

1601
00:57:49,750 --> 00:57:48,000
has been absolutely incredible and some

1602
00:57:51,190 --> 00:57:49,760
of the most amazing things i've ever

1603
00:57:54,470 --> 00:57:51,200
experienced in my entire life have been

1604
00:57:57,109 --> 00:57:54,480
associated with uh that work anything

1605
00:57:57,990 --> 00:57:57,119
you can talk about

1606
00:58:00,549 --> 00:57:58,000
sure

1607
00:58:03,030 --> 00:58:00,559
everything from

1608
00:58:04,150 --> 00:58:03,040
incredibly

1609
00:58:06,069 --> 00:58:04,160
strong

1610
00:58:07,030 --> 00:58:06,079
psychokinetic events

1611
00:58:10,470 --> 00:58:07,040
to

1612
00:58:13,430 --> 00:58:10,480
um a two-hour remote viewing

1613
00:58:16,069 --> 00:58:13,440
with over 20 targets and they were all

1614
00:58:17,349 --> 00:58:16,079
stunningly like unusually stunningly

1615
00:58:18,789 --> 00:58:17,359
creepily

1616
00:58:21,670 --> 00:58:18,799
accurate

1617
00:58:23,190 --> 00:58:21,680
to working with specialty machines built

1618
00:58:24,710 --> 00:58:23,200
just for

1619
00:58:26,150 --> 00:58:24,720
the exploration of

1620
00:58:27,510 --> 00:58:26,160
these abilities

1621
00:58:28,230 --> 00:58:27,520
um

1622
00:58:29,829 --> 00:58:28,240
and

1623
00:58:31,829 --> 00:58:29,839
much more

1624
00:58:34,150 --> 00:58:31,839
had you ever remote viewed the ranch

1625
00:58:35,190 --> 00:58:34,160
previously before you got involved

1626
00:58:39,349 --> 00:58:35,200
no

1627
00:58:40,710 --> 00:58:39,359
is it because it had never been

1628
00:58:43,349 --> 00:58:40,720
approached

1629
00:58:44,230 --> 00:58:43,359
um i just i was doing other things and

1630
00:58:47,030 --> 00:58:44,240
you know

1631
00:58:48,630 --> 00:58:47,040
it really hadn't uh come up

1632
00:58:50,230 --> 00:58:48,640
you know for me

1633
00:58:52,069 --> 00:58:50,240
for you now that you've been there and

1634
00:58:53,829 --> 00:58:52,079
had those experiences and what is the

1635
00:58:56,549 --> 00:58:53,839
importance of skin walker runs you talk

1636
00:58:58,789 --> 00:58:56,559
about in south america having uh an et

1637
00:59:00,230 --> 00:58:58,799
super highway going across

1638
00:59:01,430 --> 00:59:00,240
what's the importance of skinwalker

1639
00:59:03,430 --> 00:59:01,440
ranch

1640
00:59:05,750 --> 00:59:03,440
ultimately i think it's consciousness

1641
00:59:07,750 --> 00:59:05,760
and the power of consciousness and that

1642
00:59:10,390 --> 00:59:07,760
there is a real there's a real physics

1643
00:59:11,910 --> 00:59:10,400
going on here there's a real field

1644
00:59:12,870 --> 00:59:11,920
going on here

1645
00:59:13,210 --> 00:59:12,880
and

1646
00:59:15,030 --> 00:59:13,220
um

1647
00:59:18,630 --> 00:59:15,040
[Music]

1648
00:59:21,270 --> 00:59:18,640
there is a classic mystery that ufos

1649
00:59:23,190 --> 00:59:21,280
demonstrate and also phenomena like

1650
00:59:24,470 --> 00:59:23,200
skinwalker demonstrate i'll just mention

1651
00:59:26,390 --> 00:59:24,480
three of them

1652
00:59:28,470 --> 00:59:26,400
one is that they're precognizant both

1653
00:59:30,470 --> 00:59:28,480
ufos seem to know where the jet pilot is

1654
00:59:34,309 --> 00:59:30,480
going to go with the nimitz he knew the

1655
00:59:36,150 --> 00:59:34,319
next waypoint a skinwalker they know the

1656
00:59:38,230 --> 00:59:36,160
phenomenon knows what you're going to do

1657
00:59:40,789 --> 00:59:38,240
next and is able to defeat it and was

1658
00:59:43,030 --> 00:59:40,799
able to defeat you know 20 years worth

1659
00:59:45,030 --> 00:59:43,040
of the best scientists

1660
00:59:47,270 --> 00:59:45,040
also it has a tendency both ufos and the

1661
00:59:48,789 --> 00:59:47,280
phenomena of mimicking

1662
00:59:51,349 --> 00:59:48,799
mimicking you

1663
00:59:54,150 --> 00:59:51,359
ufos will mimic you mimic your movements

1664
00:59:56,150 --> 00:59:54,160
and things like that at skinwalker um

1665
00:59:58,150 --> 00:59:56,160
the phenomena will oftentimes present

1666
01:00:00,870 --> 00:59:58,160
itself as a reflection of your

1667
01:00:02,870 --> 01:00:00,880
inter-psyche your psychology if you're

1668
01:00:04,230 --> 01:00:02,880
militarized you will have a militarized

1669
01:00:06,630 --> 01:00:04,240
reaction

1670
01:00:09,589 --> 01:00:06,640
there's also the phenomena of if you see

1671
01:00:11,670 --> 01:00:09,599
a ufo oftentimes people talk about it

1672
01:00:13,990 --> 01:00:11,680
following them home meaning strange

1673
01:00:16,390 --> 01:00:14,000
phenomena will follow them home the same

1674
01:00:18,470 --> 01:00:16,400
thing with skinwalker many scientists

1675
01:00:20,390 --> 01:00:18,480
and others have gone there and then they

1676
01:00:21,589 --> 01:00:20,400
have strange phenomena happening them at

1677
01:00:23,510 --> 01:00:21,599
home

1678
01:00:25,430 --> 01:00:23,520
and there's one thing that can explain

1679
01:00:27,589 --> 01:00:25,440
that

1680
01:00:29,750 --> 01:00:27,599
it can follow you home

1681
01:00:32,950 --> 01:00:29,760
if it's you

1682
01:00:35,750 --> 01:00:32,960
you know your future

1683
01:00:38,069 --> 01:00:35,760
you are pre-cognizant of yourself

1684
01:00:39,109 --> 01:00:38,079
and the role of consciousness and this

1685
01:00:40,069 --> 01:00:39,119
field

1686
01:00:41,270 --> 01:00:40,079
and

1687
01:00:42,470 --> 01:00:41,280
the

1688
01:00:47,030 --> 01:00:42,480
presence of

1689
01:00:48,390 --> 01:00:47,040
advanced civilizations all interweave

1690
01:00:50,390 --> 01:00:48,400
so um

1691
01:00:52,150 --> 01:00:50,400
you know for me this is all this is

1692
01:00:54,309 --> 01:00:52,160
science this isn't woo

1693
01:00:56,630 --> 01:00:54,319
and skinwalker really taught me that we

1694
01:00:59,349 --> 01:00:56,640
know so little about our consciousness

1695
01:01:01,829 --> 01:00:59,359
but it certainly is interwoven with

1696
01:01:02,789 --> 01:01:01,839
space-time matter and energy

1697
01:01:04,150 --> 01:01:02,799
awesome

1698
01:01:06,789 --> 01:01:04,160
we'll go we'll move on to listen our

1699
01:01:08,390 --> 01:01:06,799
questions just before we finish off and

1700
01:01:09,829 --> 01:01:08,400
i'd just like to say thank you to mark

1701
01:01:11,510 --> 01:01:09,839
one of the listeners because he was

1702
01:01:12,950 --> 01:01:11,520
really interested in some of the stuff

1703
01:01:14,390 --> 01:01:12,960
around skin walker ranch but that was

1704
01:01:15,510 --> 01:01:14,400
going to be coming off anyway so thank

1705
01:01:21,109 --> 01:01:15,520
you mark

1706
01:01:22,870 --> 01:01:21,119
um first up is jenna and jenna i'd like

1707
01:01:24,630 --> 01:01:22,880
to say thank you on the podcast because

1708
01:01:26,950 --> 01:01:24,640
she was the one who put me in touch with

1709
01:01:28,309 --> 01:01:26,960
yourself and gave me a heads up as to

1710
01:01:31,910 --> 01:01:28,319
you're someone who i should be speaking

1711
01:01:33,589 --> 01:01:31,920
to um so jenna yeah jenna's awesome um

1712
01:01:35,349 --> 01:01:33,599
she does great readings as well on

1713
01:01:36,829 --> 01:01:35,359
twitter for people free of charge so get

1714
01:01:38,789 --> 01:01:36,839
in touch with jenna

1715
01:01:39,670 --> 01:01:38,799
um had a really good question

1716
01:01:41,030 --> 01:01:39,680
so

1717
01:01:42,630 --> 01:01:41,040
jenna said hearing that you've been

1718
01:01:44,710 --> 01:01:42,640
working with some interesting group

1719
01:01:49,349 --> 01:01:44,720
recently is there anything about the psy

1720
01:01:53,510 --> 01:01:51,430
that i don't know

1721
01:01:56,150 --> 01:01:53,520
the envelope

1722
01:01:59,829 --> 01:01:56,160
i don't know the ends of it

1723
01:02:02,549 --> 01:01:59,839
hutchinson could transmute metals

1724
01:02:03,510 --> 01:02:02,559
ted owens could cast or call lightning

1725
01:02:06,470 --> 01:02:03,520
bolts

1726
01:02:08,230 --> 01:02:06,480
definitively change the weather

1727
01:02:09,750 --> 01:02:08,240
different psychics have

1728
01:02:10,950 --> 01:02:09,760
demonstrated

1729
01:02:13,029 --> 01:02:10,960
and i don't even like to call them

1730
01:02:15,029 --> 01:02:13,039
psychics even

1731
01:02:17,430 --> 01:02:15,039
psy practitioners have demonstrated

1732
01:02:20,950 --> 01:02:17,440
incredibly powerful things amazingly

1733
01:02:22,950 --> 01:02:20,960
accurate things i don't know the limit

1734
01:02:25,510 --> 01:02:22,960
and i've seen some

1735
01:02:27,910 --> 01:02:25,520
incredible mind-boggling

1736
01:02:29,510 --> 01:02:27,920
stuff

1737
01:02:32,390 --> 01:02:29,520
great question great answer thank you

1738
01:02:34,309 --> 01:02:32,400
jenna um dan has two questions one is

1739
01:02:40,470 --> 01:02:34,319
very quick but the first one would be

1740
01:02:46,950 --> 01:02:44,549
i think it might be a transcendence test

1741
01:02:49,589 --> 01:02:46,960
that our species

1742
01:02:52,069 --> 01:02:49,599
and life forms are given life

1743
01:02:53,990 --> 01:02:52,079
you know this universe is suspiciously

1744
01:02:55,670 --> 01:02:54,000
constructed for life

1745
01:02:57,910 --> 01:02:55,680
if you look at a chicken farm you know

1746
01:03:00,230 --> 01:02:57,920
you have to have the heat lamp and an

1747
01:03:02,470 --> 01:03:00,240
area and the chickens can live and if

1748
01:03:04,390 --> 01:03:02,480
you look at our universe the suns are

1749
01:03:06,150 --> 01:03:04,400
these power plants energy sources

1750
01:03:08,069 --> 01:03:06,160
wonderfully placed

1751
01:03:10,549 --> 01:03:08,079
separated from each other by great

1752
01:03:11,349 --> 01:03:10,559
distances with habitat planets around

1753
01:03:13,670 --> 01:03:11,359
them

1754
01:03:15,750 --> 01:03:13,680
and it just seems for so many different

1755
01:03:17,029 --> 01:03:15,760
reasons suspiciously constructed for

1756
01:03:20,230 --> 01:03:17,039
life

1757
01:03:21,750 --> 01:03:20,240
so i think our universe was constructed

1758
01:03:22,789 --> 01:03:21,760
for life

1759
01:03:23,990 --> 01:03:22,799
and

1760
01:03:24,950 --> 01:03:24,000
maybe

1761
01:03:26,630 --> 01:03:24,960
uh

1762
01:03:29,349 --> 01:03:26,640
there's some sort of transcendence

1763
01:03:30,950 --> 01:03:29,359
possible if we are a good species

1764
01:03:33,029 --> 01:03:30,960
you can look at the fermi paradox and

1765
01:03:34,870 --> 01:03:33,039
the fermi wall and our inability to

1766
01:03:37,990 --> 01:03:34,880
communicate with other civilizations

1767
01:03:40,230 --> 01:03:38,000
right now as a hint that not many people

1768
01:03:42,829 --> 01:03:40,240
make that transcendence not many species

1769
01:03:45,990 --> 01:03:42,839
make that transcendence so i hope we

1770
01:03:47,910 --> 01:03:46,000
do thank you dan and dan second question

1771
01:03:49,750 --> 01:03:47,920
dan's about my dog lover he is asking

1772
01:03:50,870 --> 01:03:49,760
how is miss sausages

1773
01:03:52,789 --> 01:03:50,880
oh

1774
01:03:55,349 --> 01:03:52,799
miss sausages i could put the camera on

1775
01:03:58,390 --> 01:03:55,359
her right now but that she's 17 years

1776
01:04:00,150 --> 01:03:58,400
old and she just sues my soul and she's

1777
01:04:02,150 --> 01:04:00,160
just the most wondrous

1778
01:04:03,829 --> 01:04:02,160
wondrous creature she's really fragile

1779
01:04:04,710 --> 01:04:03,839
now too so

1780
01:04:06,789 --> 01:04:04,720
uh

1781
01:04:09,910 --> 01:04:06,799
you know her love and affection really

1782
01:04:12,549 --> 01:04:09,920
keeps me going and she has been just

1783
01:04:14,789 --> 01:04:12,559
the most important thing to me i'm a dog

1784
01:04:18,230 --> 01:04:14,799
person too so i i can i can relate to

1785
01:04:20,309 --> 01:04:18,240
that um so we had grace asked a question

1786
01:04:22,069 --> 01:04:20,319
um so many journalists and people in

1787
01:04:24,069 --> 01:04:22,079
general have been arguing on twitter

1788
01:04:26,710 --> 01:04:24,079
particularly the last few days about the

1789
01:04:28,230 --> 01:04:26,720
ufo and uap subject

1790
01:04:31,670 --> 01:04:28,240
what would you say to them about their

1791
01:04:34,230 --> 01:04:31,680
approach currently and the negativity

1792
01:04:36,549 --> 01:04:34,240
um that they are not doing quality

1793
01:04:39,270 --> 01:04:36,559
research if you deny the existence of

1794
01:04:41,910 --> 01:04:39,280
ufos and uaps you have just not done the

1795
01:04:43,990 --> 01:04:41,920
basic research you're making more

1796
01:04:46,309 --> 01:04:44,000
conjectures than you've done the actual

1797
01:04:49,029 --> 01:04:46,319
research there's research like victor

1798
01:04:52,069 --> 01:04:49,039
vigiani got these documents uh

1799
01:04:55,829 --> 01:04:52,079
indisputable documents from norad

1800
01:04:58,630 --> 01:04:55,839
that talk about uh intercepted tracks

1801
01:05:01,109 --> 01:04:58,640
unidentified tracks tracks of interest

1802
01:05:03,430 --> 01:05:01,119
and uh you know the nimitz incident the

1803
01:05:04,789 --> 01:05:03,440
government just released three videos of

1804
01:05:07,190 --> 01:05:04,799
these craft

1805
01:05:10,309 --> 01:05:09,190
and it's easy to look at them as a

1806
01:05:12,710 --> 01:05:10,319
threat

1807
01:05:15,510 --> 01:05:12,720
but they haven't used this amazing

1808
01:05:17,750 --> 01:05:15,520
technology to destroy us or do anything

1809
01:05:19,349 --> 01:05:17,760
very negative as far as i can determine

1810
01:05:20,870 --> 01:05:19,359
awesome i've got one more question i'm

1811
01:05:21,589 --> 01:05:20,880
not too sure of the background on this

1812
01:05:23,589 --> 01:05:21,599
one

1813
01:05:25,510 --> 01:05:23,599
mike asked

1814
01:05:27,190 --> 01:05:25,520
is there any more information on the

1815
01:05:29,510 --> 01:05:27,200
classified documents that were left in

1816
01:05:31,270 --> 01:05:29,520
your car

1817
01:05:32,710 --> 01:05:31,280
wow well it's strange that you bring

1818
01:05:34,829 --> 01:05:32,720
that up mike because something else has

1819
01:05:37,589 --> 01:05:34,839
come up recently about that and

1820
01:05:40,069 --> 01:05:37,599
um they've been verified by one of

1821
01:05:41,750 --> 01:05:40,079
grant's uh document guys and they've

1822
01:05:44,710 --> 01:05:41,760
been verified by others and i've gotten

1823
01:05:48,309 --> 01:05:44,720
into a little trouble over those

1824
01:05:50,390 --> 01:05:48,319
things and um about six months ago

1825
01:05:52,150 --> 01:05:50,400
someone tried to slash i still have a

1826
01:05:54,470 --> 01:05:52,160
star here you can see someone's tried to

1827
01:05:57,029 --> 01:05:54,480
slash my throat from behind

1828
01:05:58,789 --> 01:05:57,039
never met them before so the russian guy

1829
01:06:00,150 --> 01:05:58,799
was a funny accent

1830
01:06:02,950 --> 01:06:00,160
and i kind of wondered if there was a

1831
01:06:05,670 --> 01:06:02,960
connection between that or what um but

1832
01:06:08,150 --> 01:06:05,680
the documents still exist and they're

1833
01:06:09,670 --> 01:06:08,160
being preserved and some of them are are

1834
01:06:10,630 --> 01:06:09,680
out some of them have sneaked out

1835
01:06:11,750 --> 01:06:10,640
already

1836
01:06:15,109 --> 01:06:11,760
um

1837
01:06:18,150 --> 01:06:15,119
to

1838
01:06:20,230 --> 01:06:18,160
people as a like a dead man's trigger

1839
01:06:21,349 --> 01:06:20,240
and uh so they're still they're there

1840
01:06:23,109 --> 01:06:21,359
some of the information's already come

1841
01:06:25,750 --> 01:06:23,119
out from those documents i just haven't

1842
01:06:27,430 --> 01:06:25,760
been identified as the source

1843
01:06:29,430 --> 01:06:27,440
awesome thank you mike

1844
01:06:31,829 --> 01:06:29,440
one more question buddy before the

1845
01:06:35,029 --> 01:06:31,839
quickfire round if you don't mind ufo

1846
01:06:36,309 --> 01:06:35,039
joe on twitter asked and let me read you

1847
01:06:38,950 --> 01:06:36,319
the question

1848
01:06:41,430 --> 01:06:38,960
oh this is ufo this guy doesn't like me

1849
01:06:44,230 --> 01:06:41,440
no i know him because

1850
01:06:46,549 --> 01:06:44,240
i had identified a witness from the

1851
01:06:48,710 --> 01:06:46,559
nimitz incident and he felt i shouldn't

1852
01:06:50,309 --> 01:06:48,720
have identified that person

1853
01:06:51,349 --> 01:06:50,319
so that's the question are you happy

1854
01:06:52,870 --> 01:06:51,359
answering

1855
01:06:54,470 --> 01:06:52,880
he blocked me no you can keep this all

1856
01:06:56,150 --> 01:06:54,480
and i think you know transparency is

1857
01:06:58,710 --> 01:06:56,160
really important and i'd like to speak

1858
01:07:00,470 --> 01:06:58,720
to ufo joe he's blocked me and doesn't

1859
01:07:02,150 --> 01:07:00,480
like me and talks bad about me or

1860
01:07:03,510 --> 01:07:02,160
whatever and you know he's welcome to

1861
01:07:05,829 --> 01:07:03,520
have his opinion he comes from a

1862
01:07:09,190 --> 01:07:05,839
different perspective and you know

1863
01:07:11,029 --> 01:07:09,200
whether i made a mistake in revealing um

1864
01:07:12,150 --> 01:07:11,039
i won't say the name now but i have in

1865
01:07:14,150 --> 01:07:12,160
the past

1866
01:07:15,990 --> 01:07:14,160
who the real special witness is from the

1867
01:07:17,670 --> 01:07:16,000
nimitz incident that we don't know the

1868
01:07:19,829 --> 01:07:17,680
person hasn't come out has been

1869
01:07:22,470 --> 01:07:19,839
identified but people have outed other

1870
01:07:25,109 --> 01:07:22,480
males that were involved in it but this

1871
01:07:26,069 --> 01:07:25,119
person is not male just to say

1872
01:07:29,029 --> 01:07:26,079
yeah and

1873
01:07:30,150 --> 01:07:29,039
i feel like even if what i did was a

1874
01:07:32,549 --> 01:07:30,160
mistake

1875
01:07:35,029 --> 01:07:32,559
he should grant me my human frailty and

1876
01:07:37,589 --> 01:07:35,039
say well maybe if he you know he made a

1877
01:07:39,190 --> 01:07:37,599
mistake i can i can forgive him you know

1878
01:07:40,789 --> 01:07:39,200
and you know he hasn't even done that i

1879
01:07:42,710 --> 01:07:40,799
think he's been very

1880
01:07:44,390 --> 01:07:42,720
rude by not

1881
01:07:45,349 --> 01:07:44,400
communicating with me

1882
01:07:47,109 --> 01:07:45,359
and

1883
01:07:49,990 --> 01:07:47,119
solving whatever you know animosity that

1884
01:07:51,190 --> 01:07:50,000
he has over that towards me so let me

1885
01:07:53,670 --> 01:07:51,200
ask you the question directly because

1886
01:07:55,750 --> 01:07:53,680
you've basically answered it but um do

1887
01:07:57,510 --> 01:07:55,760
you regret being unethical by outing the

1888
01:08:00,309 --> 01:07:57,520
female wingmen pilot who wanted to

1889
01:08:01,349 --> 01:08:00,319
remain anonymous and still does

1890
01:08:02,870 --> 01:08:01,359
um

1891
01:08:05,829 --> 01:08:02,880
well whether she wanted to remain

1892
01:08:06,549 --> 01:08:05,839
anonymous is still kind of whatever i i

1893
01:08:08,870 --> 01:08:06,559
think

1894
01:08:11,829 --> 01:08:08,880
that the ethicalness of it

1895
01:08:14,150 --> 01:08:11,839
is a very subjective thing and i really

1896
01:08:16,550 --> 01:08:14,160
honestly haven't made my final mind up

1897
01:08:18,630 --> 01:08:16,560
whether i did the right thing or not

1898
01:08:21,110 --> 01:08:18,640
and i really debated about this in my

1899
01:08:22,630 --> 01:08:21,120
own mind for a long time but we often

1900
01:08:24,709 --> 01:08:22,640
talk about people suppressing

1901
01:08:27,510 --> 01:08:24,719
information and suppressing data and

1902
01:08:29,990 --> 01:08:27,520
this is the single most important ufo

1903
01:08:32,229 --> 01:08:30,000
case in history it has the most evidence

1904
01:08:35,749 --> 01:08:32,239
the most sensory evidence the most video

1905
01:08:38,470 --> 01:08:35,759
evidence the most everything

1906
01:08:39,749 --> 01:08:38,480
it's a crucial crucial case

1907
01:08:42,070 --> 01:08:39,759
and i think

1908
01:08:43,910 --> 01:08:42,080
there it almost seems a little sexist to

1909
01:08:45,510 --> 01:08:43,920
me that he would feel like he has to

1910
01:08:47,430 --> 01:08:45,520
defend her

1911
01:08:49,430 --> 01:08:47,440
you know more than communicate with me

1912
01:08:52,149 --> 01:08:49,440
and to you know allow me if it was a

1913
01:08:53,910 --> 01:08:52,159
mistake if i did do the wrong thing uh

1914
01:08:57,189 --> 01:08:53,920
allow me that human frailty to make a

1915
01:09:00,550 --> 01:08:57,199
mistake because i'm not perfect i do

1916
01:09:03,829 --> 01:09:00,560
you know part of my abilities is to um

1917
01:09:05,269 --> 01:09:03,839
find things that are obscured and reveal

1918
01:09:06,390 --> 01:09:05,279
information and i'm not going to be

1919
01:09:09,030 --> 01:09:06,400
another person

1920
01:09:10,390 --> 01:09:09,040
suppressing information from the public

1921
01:09:12,709 --> 01:09:10,400
i just don't think that's right and

1922
01:09:15,430 --> 01:09:12,719
that's fair and i also think

1923
01:09:18,149 --> 01:09:15,440
that this person

1924
01:09:21,349 --> 01:09:18,159
is part of a incredibly important

1925
01:09:24,229 --> 01:09:21,359
historic event and she

1926
01:09:26,149 --> 01:09:24,239
this person should come forward

1927
01:09:28,870 --> 01:09:26,159
for the benefit of all of us

1928
01:09:31,669 --> 01:09:28,880
um and this will not hurt her this

1929
01:09:33,590 --> 01:09:31,679
person or their career this person is a

1930
01:09:35,510 --> 01:09:33,600
badass

1931
01:09:38,950 --> 01:09:35,520
this person is absolutely amazing has

1932
01:09:41,189 --> 01:09:38,960
made like over 300 wartime

1933
01:09:44,470 --> 01:09:41,199
day and night landings on aircraft

1934
01:09:45,269 --> 01:09:44,480
carriers this person is a badass and

1935
01:09:46,630 --> 01:09:45,279
she's

1936
01:09:47,430 --> 01:09:46,640
you know just i won't reveal the name

1937
01:09:49,430 --> 01:09:47,440
but

1938
01:09:52,149 --> 01:09:49,440
she's beautiful she's incredibly

1939
01:09:53,269 --> 01:09:52,159
intelligent and um

1940
01:09:55,350 --> 01:09:53,279
this

1941
01:09:56,550 --> 01:09:55,360
coming out would not hurt

1942
01:09:59,030 --> 01:09:56,560
um

1943
01:10:00,470 --> 01:09:59,040
i don't think it would hurt her career

1944
01:10:03,510 --> 01:10:00,480
um

1945
01:10:04,709 --> 01:10:03,520
many pilots and have come out and spoken

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about these different issues and

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everyone else associated with it has

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come out and there's been a lot of lies

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as if um fravor was

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her

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when she's a very important witness and

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has very important things to say

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and was the crucial witness

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so you know what i would say to joe and

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to anyone who feels animosity towards me

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for revealing that information

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they may think it's unethical i'm not

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even certain myself if i did the right

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thing or not

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and

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you know i can't take back what i did

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and i would just ask people like joe to

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always communicate with the people they

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have a problem with especially within

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our community we shouldn't divide

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ourselves in the ufo research community

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joe's a very serious guy about this

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research and so am i

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and we care about this topic very much

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so we shouldn't divide each other we

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should try to find bridges and learning

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and understanding you know if i am wrong

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a

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viewership you know so it's not like i

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revealed it to the world

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and you know uh you know i ask his

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forgiveness

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and uh i i still think it's history and

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and very important stuff

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that's a very honest answer and i

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appreciate that and joe again thank you

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for the question as well that that would

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be good if you could get in touch uh

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there's been a lot of animosity on

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twitter in the last couple of days

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particular

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yeah he's you know he's just blocked me

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and not communicated and i think within

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01:11:56,950 --> 01:11:54,159
our community we should we don't have to

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01:11:59,430 --> 01:11:56,960
worry about disinformation cia

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operatives making us look foolish or

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like in fighters we do it pretty good

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ourselves and uh

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i think we should always strive for the

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highest ideals and

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you know pragmatism and logic

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and also a little bit of compassion too

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no one's perfect

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absolutely not you're right thank you

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for the questions folks there was a few

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other ones sent in but just due to time

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constraints and also the the body of the

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interview we've answered quite a lot of

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those as well just to finish off on the

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quick fire round it's a few words or

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sentences on various projects and topics

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uh and then we'll kind of finish off so

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the first one would be the montauk

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project

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uh bs

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i thought you might say that the next

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01:12:46,630 --> 01:12:44,080
one would be and this one's kind of for

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me the men who stare at goats the movie

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have you seen it

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01:12:52,709 --> 01:12:51,520
no i haven't have you read the book

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no i haven't

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do you know what it's about

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01:12:58,390 --> 01:12:56,560
yes yeah okay is it something you're

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01:12:59,189 --> 01:12:58,400
going to see or do you just choose not

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to

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the abilities i i know they exist

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i just wondered given the tone of the

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film if you would if you would avoid it

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given it as more comical and obviously

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01:13:12,550 --> 01:13:11,440
kind of fanta fantasized given the

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01:13:13,830 --> 01:13:12,560
nature of the thing it doesn't have to

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01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:13,840
be does it

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so the next one would be the friendly

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and hostile et narrative

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i only believe in the friendly e.t

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narrative i'm not a subscriber to

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the hostile eg narrative and i've never

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01:13:30,070 --> 01:13:27,920
seen any convincing evidence there's

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01:13:32,310 --> 01:13:30,080
plenty of stories about hostile negative

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01:13:35,830 --> 01:13:32,320
experiences negative abductions but i'm

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highly suspect of those

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01:13:46,470 --> 01:13:43,350
that's a very complex

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um subject he is someone that the ufo

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community should always be incredibly

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grateful for for

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01:13:54,229 --> 01:13:52,640
so many different things the press club

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event where he brought out all these

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01:13:58,390 --> 01:13:56,400
people for all of his interviews but

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there's also a lot of fear-mongering

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01:14:03,189 --> 01:14:01,760
with you know a giant fake ufo event and

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the government's going to be doing this

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01:14:05,669 --> 01:14:04,400
and that

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cool um

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01:14:10,149 --> 01:14:07,280
ce5

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um very real very important

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the technique is everything

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uh fear monger

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01:14:23,510 --> 01:14:21,360
and the last one i'd like to finish off

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01:14:25,750 --> 01:14:23,520
with all the guests what does disclosure

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01:14:27,669 --> 01:14:25,760
mean to you

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uh revealing the reality that advanced

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01:14:31,750 --> 01:14:29,120
civilizations have been visiting our

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excellent that's great uh listen buddy

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it's been amazing talking with you if

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you want to just let the listeners know

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how they can get in touch with you how

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they can subscribe to your youtube

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channel

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they could just go to alien protocols on

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youtube or to email me if anyone wants

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healing we never charge for any of this

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stuff if there's someone sick who needs

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healing if you need a remote viewing if

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01:14:55,990 --> 01:14:54,159
you want tips on psy

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01:14:58,270 --> 01:14:56,000
abilities it would be a pleasure to help

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in any way we can you can just email at

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alienprotocols gmail.com

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that's great buddy it's been absolute

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pleasure speaking with you thank you

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very much

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my pleasure god bless you and the

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listeners thanks everyone

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that is all for this week's show thank

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you very much for listening please

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folks as always keep looking up you

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never know what you might see

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is

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[Music]

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i can't imagine how it could have been

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any better i got to the top of the

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[Music]

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there was something on my head and

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they thought it was everything toys

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what's that

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[Music]

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for being serious

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[Music]

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is

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[Music]

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it wasn't a tic tac and not quite a